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Currently Being ModeratedMay 13, 2009 5:16 PM (in response to AJM83)I have the exact same problem. On another forum it was suggested that removing Application Enhancer (in System Preferences panel) would fix it, but it doesn't help me as I don't have Application Enhancer in the first place...MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.5.7)
Currently Being ModeratedMay 13, 2009 5:56 PM (in response to AJM83)Howdy,
I've got a Macbook Pro from Autumn 2007 (model 3.1) and under 10.5.7 it all too often won't go to sleep and then won't wake up. The mouse arrow disappears and it will go to a dark screen, but is clearly not off, and seems to be saving memory to the HD but it never goes to sleep. This occurs randomly; sometimes everthing works fine.
Herbert Schulz15.4" Macbook Pro 2.4GHz, Mac OS X (10.5.7), 2GB Ram
Currently Being ModeratedMay 13, 2009 6:43 PM (in response to AJM83)Hello, I am the "Peter Hull" referred to in the original post, which was referencing a comment I posted on the Macintouch "10.5.7 Update" reader report. Some further information: I made a complete CCC backup of the MacBook, reformatted the drive, and reinstalled the original 10.5[.0] from the DVD which came with the machine. The problem does not occur in this configuration. Also, the other problem that I mentioned in my Macintouch pos, which I believe might be related--that of the machine freezing when switching off the AirPort card after one sleep cycle--also does not occur in the original install. After installing the 10.5.7 Combo Update, the sleep freeze reoccurs, but the wireless powerdown freeze does not.
Note that there were no changes made to the defaults on installing 10.5[.0], and no changes were made before upgrading to 10.5.7. This occurs with a completely vanilla 10.5.0 -> 10.5.7 installation. I'm going to redo the install with 10.5.6 to see what happens there.
Any help on this issue would really be appreciated.Late 2007 MacBook, Mac OS X (10.5.7), 4GB RAM
Currently Being ModeratedMay 14, 2009 4:12 AM (in response to fromagique)Wow. Now that changes some things. So, it appears that it's not any specific software installed that makes the problem occur, but 10.5.7 itself!
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My MBP is having problems also, so I'm considering reformatting and upgrading to 10.5.6 (if I can find this updater).2.5GHz Early 2008 MBP, Mac OS X (10.5.7)
Currently Being ModeratedMay 13, 2009 9:24 PM (in response to fromagique)Update: as expected, the sleep freeze does not occur in a vanilla 10.5.0 -> 10.5.6 install. Interestingly enough, neither does the wireless power-down freeze. So apparently that latter issue (the wireless power-down freeze) is not relevant to this topic and was merely an anomaly on my system caused by something else.
But the second-sleep freeze is, according to my research and testing, directly caused by the 10.5.7 update. Anyone at Apple listening? Do you all not test for being able to sleep a notebook, or does your script only try once?Late 2007 MacBook, Mac OS X (10.5.7), 4GB RAM
Currently Being ModeratedMay 13, 2009 9:38 PM (in response to AJM83)same freeze problem after 2nd time going to sleep (must restart macbook to fix), this occurred after I installed 10.5.7
need help please!Macbook 2.4 GHz white, Mac OS X (10.5.7)
Currently Being ModeratedMay 13, 2009 10:43 PM (in response to fumemrw)I went down the same re-install path. I got my original 10.5(0) dvd out and did an Archive and Install. Problem gone, I could do all the sleep cycles I wanted to, no problem (as I've always been able to up through 10.5.6.) I then applied the 10.5.7 combo installer. The problem immediately reappeared. Freeze on second sleep after rebooting. I've been a Mac fan for 17 years, but come on, this is simple and reproducible and does not relate to interactions with 3rd party software. Apple this should be easy to fix, get to it before it becomes the next Microsoft commercial!!!MacBook Pro (July 2007 2.2GHz), Mac OS X (10.5.7)
Currently Being ModeratedMay 13, 2009 10:53 PM (in response to AJM83)Hi guys, no solution unfortunately yet, but I have filed this as a bug with Apple.
It's bug ID number 6886632.Macbook, Mac OS X (10.5.7)
Currently Being ModeratedMay 13, 2009 11:57 PM (in response to AJM83)Unfortunately since upgrading to 10.5.7 I have the same issue with my MacbookPro3,1 (2.2 GHz Core 2 Duo) with Boot-ROM-version MBP31.0070.B07 and SMC version 1.16f8: when I shut the lid, the screen goes dark but the backlight stays on, the fans spin up due to thermal issues within a minute and when opening the lid again the computer does not wake up anymore but needs a hard reset.MacbookPro3,1, Mac OS X (10.5.7)
Currently Being ModeratedMay 14, 2009 12:16 AM (in response to andrewdale)
Is it just me or does it seem like developers have NO idea how to test software? Either that or Apple Engineers don't actually use it, they just write it and pass it out.
I was hoping it was adequately tested, because it took quite a while to get this update out. Many builds were sent to many developers. This is a rather shocking thing to overlook.
I have observed this sleep lockup twice today. This is not good. Reporting as bug now...Mac Pro, MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.5.6), PowerBook G4 15" Al, PowerBook G3 FireWire, PowerCenter Pro, PowerBook 160
Currently Being ModeratedMay 14, 2009 1:10 AM (in response to Network 23)Couple more observations.
It isn't a user account issue. The second-sleep freeze will happen if I click the Sleep button in the login window, outside any user account.
I used AppleJack to delete the safe sleep image, but that didn't help.
Trying to figure out if there is any preference or file that needs to be deleted or reset to alter how sleep happens. Any ideas, anybody? If none can be found, this really is a bad bug.
Wondering if it has anything to do with kernel extensions. Is there anyone experiencing this bug who is not also running Parallels Desktop? OpenVPN?Mac Pro, MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.5.6), PowerBook G4 15" Al, PowerBook G3 FireWire, PowerCenter Pro, PowerBook 160
Currently Being ModeratedMay 14, 2009 2:04 AM (in response to Network 23)Yes, I have the same problem as OP after innstalling 10.5.7 on a system similar to
My first attempt to innstall 10.5.7 failed (combo update pakage) so firstly I assumed the update went wrong and that the buggy sleep/freezes where rooted in some files not been copied. Last night I reinstalled the update (w/o problems), but the freezes contiune.
As most posters note freezes occur on the second sleep. This has noting to do with USB or other peripherals. And on a side note I don't have Parallels or OpenVPN.
$ system_profiler SPHardwareDataType SPSoftwareDataType
Model Name: MacBook Pro
Model Identifier: MacBookPro3,1
Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed: 2.2 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 2
L2 Cache: 4 MB
Memory: 4 GB
Bus Speed: 800 MHz
Boot ROM Version: MBP31.0070.B07
SMC Version (system): 1.16f10
Serial Number (system): W8743<SNIPP>
Sudden Motion Sensor:
System Software Overview:
System Version: Mac OS X 10.5.7 (9J61)
Kernel Version: Darwin 9.7.0
Boot Volume: disk0s2
Boot Mode: Normal
Computer Name: KLUDgE
User Name: <SNIPP>
Time since boot: 9 minutes
Options? Back to 10.5.6 (time machine "void")? Wait for Apple to fix the problem? Or at least give us MBP-users a better way to reset our books (reset-button-petition).
So long!Mac OS X (10.5.7)
Currently Being ModeratedMay 14, 2009 2:13 AM (in response to gurb)More info:
Reinstalling 10.5.7 combo: Does not fix it
Disabling Safe Sleep via Terminal: Does not fix it
Boot into Safe Mode, sleep from login window: Does not fix it
Very strange and bad.Mac Pro, MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.5.6), PowerBook G4 15" Al, PowerBook G3 FireWire, PowerCenter Pro, PowerBook 160
Currently Being ModeratedMay 14, 2009 2:21 AM (in response to Network 23)Are there any associated messages in the /var/log/system.log file that indicate why sleep may be failing?
I've got admittedly a newer MBP (MacBookPro4,1) but I've put it to sleep and have woken it back up numerous times since installing 10.5.7 with no issues.Quad 2.5 GHz G5, 5 GB | 15" 2.6 GHz MBP Penryn, 4 GB | 1 TB Dual-Band TC, Mac OS X (10.5.6)