Two INDEPENDENT columns

I need to format a page in which there are two equally wide columns which appear on the page. What I can't figure out is how to make them operate INDEPENDENTLY of one another.

It's a TV script. The directions typed in the left column cannot affect the copy that is typed in the right column.

Your help would be GREATLY appreciated as this is an important freelance job I've picked up, but I'm clueless how to accomplish this precise formatting. Dan

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Posted on May 14, 2009 4:18 PM

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May 14, 2009 6:33 PM in response to Dan Slocum

Dan

The requirement is usually that the left margin directions flow with the script in the right margin. This will not happen in Pages.

InDesign, and I think Word as well, allows anchoring of text or image boxes inline with text but outside the margins.

There are specialty apps for scripts.

http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/7661/final-draft (US$299)

http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/21972/montage (US$105)

http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/23703/storyist (US$59)

http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/12806/copywrite (US$25)

http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/19246/celtx (Free)

Peter

May 14, 2009 6:21 PM in response to Dan Slocum

Open a blank page layout document. Then drag out a text box from the top of the page to the bottom the width you want that column to be. Then drag out a second text box for the second column. Page layout acts differently than a word processor. You'll have to manually add new pages, they won't automatically flow as you add text. Once you've created your template page with the two columns, select Advanced from the Format menu and select *Capture Page*. Now when you need a new page you can select *New Page* from the Insert menu. The manual & help describes more about text boxes and how to make text flow between them so be sure to check them out.

May 14, 2009 7:41 PM in response to dwb

Hi dwb. ONE MORE QUESTION. I think I've figured out the formatting that you suggest. I am wondering if there's a way to export this as a Word doc so an editor can work with it.

Everytime I try to do that it tells me there are warnings and that the formatting won't hold in word processing.

Surely Pages allows for a way to make this work. THANKS, Dan

May 14, 2009 10:04 PM in response to Dan Slocum

Pages can read and write Word documents as a concession to the real world monopoly of Microsoft but that doesn't mean Pages is a Word work-a-like program. Think along the lines of a US or UK citizen talking to an Indian tech support worker trying to troubleshoot our computer. Yes, sometimes the conversation flows and all is well, other times we come to a complete and confusing halt.

The method I described will work perfectly and, by the way, as Peter said, one of the columns must flow from page to page - the blue widget near the bottom of a text block is the key to making this happen. But it a Pages solution only. Pages and Word get along with word processing documents that are at most lightly formatted. The solution for your task is a Page Layout document which Word handles differently from Pages. This being the case, I suggest you give serious thought to using Word rather than Pages.

May 14, 2009 11:44 PM in response to Dan Slocum

Dan,

Once you start using multiple text boxes and try exporting to Word you are almost certainly not going to get the text in the same order.

If you must work in Pages there are several ways you can fudge this but it will involve manually adjusting each layout.

1. Create a 2 column layout. Try to work in page chunks with both leading (line spacing) and space between paragraphs all being equal. Then simply use returns to align directions in the left column with the script in the right.

2. Create 2 column text blocks for each combination of directions and script. The directions being in the left column and the script in the right. Stretch the pair of columns down as deep as you need for the maximum amount of text (probably the script). Insert a column break at the end of the directions to jump to the right hand column for the script.

Then create a new 2 column text box for the next combination of directions and script. Link the text boxes if necessary to make this all one piece of flowing text. A word of warning whilst this will make one string of text, the directions will interleave the script.

3. Make a text box as an inline "drop cap" at the beginning of each script where there needs to be an instruction. See if you can adequately baseline shift this down to align, which may be hard if there are a lot of directions. The script then is formatted as a hanging indent with the hang as deep as needed to accomodate the large "drop cap" text box.

4. Run all the directions as floating text boxes and manually line them up with the script. Keep adjusting as things move around. Gets tedious the longer the document becomes.

If I think hard enough I might be able to come up with something else.

Peter

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