Need software/firmware 1.0.0 to Ipod Classic 80Gb 5-gen

I need the old firmware, the new ones wont work with my dock. Anybody who knows where I can find it?

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Posted on May 25, 2009 4:18 AM

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May 26, 2009 11:06 AM in response to Jyztrik

Need software/firmware 1.0.0 to Ipod Classic 80Gb 5-gen


There's no such thing. Your iPod is either an iPod classic or an iPod 5th gen (commonly referred to as an iPod video.)

Either way (and judging by the firmware version you are asking for it seems as if you are referring to an iPod classic) you're going to be out of luck as Apple doesn't host older firmware versions.

May 26, 2009 11:47 AM in response to Jyztrik

First thing, stick with one thread - not three! You are more likely to get an answer if you stick with one.

Jyztrik wrote:
I need the old firmware, the new ones wont work with my dock.

What do you mean, which "dock" are you using and what is it that does not work? For instance, are you trying to get video out through a dock or is it the sound that does not work?

Picking up on what Jeff said about the model of iPod you have, go to this page, http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1353 to identify your model.

Tell us the actual model you have, which model "dock" you are using (and its part number if it's an Apple dock) and what eactly you are trying to do which does not work. Then perhaps we can identify what the problem is.

Phil

May 29, 2009 12:10 PM in response to Jyztrik

They told me that they don't have the old firmware but I dont think thats true, a huge company like apple should ha all the firmwares stored somewhere.


Who are "they"? Whether you think it's true or not, I can assure you that Apple does not make older iPod software versions available to customers.

It used to be that we downloaded the iPod software to our computers and then ran the software and updated our iPods. That meant that all the older versions were stored on our computers and available to us. I still have many older iPod software versions for different model iPods.

Some time ago Apple changed this and now the only way to access the iPod software updater is via iTunes and of course it contains only the current version.

If you have the previous version still on your computer, try this.

Remove the latest update from the iTunes/iPod updates folder.

In Windows XP I think it's all programs/iPod/iPod updater.

Or, Documents and Settings\User Name\Application Data\Apple Computer\iTunes\iPod Software Updates.

For Vista, I believe it's C:\User Name\AppData\Roaming\Apple Computer\iTunes\iPod Software Updates.

Then prevent iTunes from checking the internet for a new update (preferences/general and remove the check mark from "check for updates automatically), then click restore. Or simply disconnect your modem from the computer.

You should then be asked if you want to use the previous version of the iPod software.

Failing that, you're out of luck. 😟

Jun 2, 2009 7:35 AM in response to the fiend

I have already tried that and Pioneer and their workshops can't help me. They just blame Apple..

Looks like i just have to accept that this won't work.
I know for shure that I'm not going to buy an apple or Pioneer product again. I like to get disent support for my products, thats a thing apple and pioneer don't provide!:(

Thanks for answers.

sorry for the bad english..

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Jun 3, 2009 1:23 AM in response to Jyztrik

Why is this Apple's fault may I ask? Do Pioneer specially state that the iPod classic will work with your Pioneer head unit? If they do, then it's up to them to provide support, not Apple.

I can't see how Apple should be held responsible for providing support for every 3rd party accessory that's on the market.

Just as a matter of interest, what does the user manual state as regards iPod compatibility for this head unit? If you have a classic it may not work with an older Pioneer head unit.

For instance, my 3 year old Kenwood unit would not work with any iPod newer than the 5th gen no matter what the firmware version was, and the user manual clearly stated this.

Jun 4, 2009 10:28 AM in response to Jyztrik

I agree with Jeff's comment about Pioneer - if they state that the iPod is compatible with their head unit, then they (Pioneer) should support it and not Apple. Again, as Jeff says, how can Apple support every 3rd party product that is produced?

I've just checked the Pioneer web site and although I did not find the AVIC X3-BT that you mentioned, I did find the AVIC-X3 ( http://www.pioneer.co.uk/uk/products/archive/AVIC-X3/index.html) and I see that it is only compatible with iPods up to August 2007. It is not listed on the Pioneer.no site, so perhaps it was never available there.

The AVIC-X3-II which *is shown on the Norwegian site* ( http://www.pioneer.no/no/products/25/111/241/AVIC-X3-II/specs.html) states that it is compatible with iPods up to September 2007, but specifically excludes the iPod Touch (introduced that month). This is the same month that the original Classic was introduced. So - first thing - work out exactly which model of iPod you have ( http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1353). If yours is a Classic, introduced in September 2007, then there may be an issue, but that is up to Pioneer to sort out, perhaps with an update to their product.

I did look for the AVIC-X3-BT on both web sites, but as far as I can tell (with my Norwegian!) it is not there.

I also found a forum specifically about the AVIC X3, at http://www.avicx1forums.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=6 and this post ( http://www.avicx1forums.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1617) in particular about the Classic not working with the AVIC X3. In his reply, Oliver says that there is a problem with the Classic (at the Pioneer end) and he advises the original poster to contact Pioneer Customer Services by phone.

By the way, your English is better than my Norwegian, I guarantee it!

Med vennlig hilsen,
Phil

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Jun 8, 2009 5:54 AM in response to Jeff Bryan

The problem is not apples fault. But I'm not pleased with the way apple supports me. The only thing I ask for i the original firmware on the Ipod. That should not be so much truble to provide me, I even offerd to pay for it.

My manual claims that the Ipod should work perfectly, and it did untill suddenly it stopped working. I called Pioneer and they blamed Apple for the softwareupdate. I call Apple and they blame Pioneer.

Jun 8, 2009 6:42 AM in response to the fiend

Yeah, but they don't. They told me that the only way to get it to work was to buy the new avic x3-II!
So they mean that i should throw away my old that I pay for a new one!

Yeah I know. But the ting is that it worked perfectly with my Ipod for a while..
The avic x3-bt is just x3 with the bluetooth adapter included.

I have the Ipod Classic, not the fift gen.

The oddest thing is that this worked so fine for some time, stopped working and then started working again. I'm beginning to think there's a problem with my player..

Med Vennelig Hilsen Ole 🙂

Jun 9, 2009 1:47 AM in response to Jyztrik

My manual claims that the Ipod should work perfectly, and it did untill suddenly it stopped working. I called Pioneer and they blamed Apple for the softwareupdate. I call Apple and they blame Pioneer.


Apple frequently updates the iPod software on all models (until they become outdated by newer models), and I'm sure Pioneer is well aware of this. Don't these Pioneer head units have an SD card slot via which you can update the unit's software. I know my AVIC-F900BT head unit did.

The ball is firmly in Pioneer's court here.

Jun 9, 2009 11:59 AM in response to Jyztrik

Jyztrik wrote:
The only thing I ask for i the original firmware on the Ipod. That should not be so much truble to provide me, I even offerd to pay for it.

One thing to bear in mind about previous versions of software; if - and I repeat if - you were able to get hold of the version of software you are seeking, you may find that something else stops working.

Suppose for instance, that you have added new content which then does not work when you revert back to previous software, you would probably be more upset than you are now. Even if it was not the content itself, updates are often to stop faulty behaviour and you would also be unhappy if your iPod suddenly started doing something it shouldn't do due to reverting back to older software.

Phil

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