Huge boo boo with 10.5.7. Please help!

After some difficulty, the 10.5.7 update decided to get installed in a very hocus pocus way ( http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2018273&tstart=0). You'd think I would be happy and move on with my life, but no.

I was uncomfortable with the way it was installed and wondered if my system was a ticking time bomb. Just to make sure it was done right, I re-downloaded the update and the combo update with iGetter, I repaired permissions, then ran the combo update. Upon system restart, I got the infinite looping blue screen. Quickly I turned to this forum for some direction and tried two things:

1) Took out the battery, pulled out the power cable, and then held the power button for about 10 seconds. Restarted the system, but no show.

2) Held shift while the system booted. The grey screen with the Apple logo and the spinning gears stayed for a while, then my system went off. Restarted, same screen, then it went off again.

My first blue screen of death on a Mac. I'm typing this post on my Windows side, which I have to say, I'm thankful for. So that's where I'm at. I need your help. Badly. Thanks.

iPhone 3G (16 GB, Black, Firmware 2.2) + MacBook Aluminum (Late 2008), Mac OS X (10.5.7), 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 2 GB 1067 MHz DDR3 SDRAM

Posted on May 26, 2009 9:31 PM

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May 26, 2009 10:21 PM in response to osayifromcupertino

Firstly, I have read your other discussion about the "igetter". Nerowolfe raised the question as to why you did not use the normal software update, and I think therein lies a clue: A normally functioning system would give you the software update and after restarting twice, you'd updated from 10.5.6 to 10.5.7. That is something that could impossibly go unnoticed (your other post seemed somewhat surprised that you were already running 10.5.7).
Unless someone else had been tinkering with your system beforehand.

Secondly, more to your current problem, have you tried a startup while pressing the option key (it should give you the icons of available OS's to boot up from). Also, you could try and booting from the original Leopard install disk, run disk permissions from there, and on reboot, hopefully 10.5.7 appears, run disk permissions again from the OS itself.
If you get that far, you should go to system preferences/software updates/installed updates. That should tell you what you installed and when.

If you installed the software-update DELTA (the smaller one ±452mB) you might want to consider installing the COMBO (via standalone installer) http://support.apple.com/downloads/MacOS_X_10_5_7_ComboUpdate

Good luck

May 26, 2009 10:45 PM in response to osayifromcupertino

Your system may be badly hosed now and need to be reinstalled.

First get an external drive to make a backup. Beg or borrow the money to buy one if you need to. Hook it up to your Mac. Boot up from your Leopard DVD. Launch Disk Utility from the Utilities menu. Click the Restore tab. Drag your internal drive to the Source box, and your new external drive to the Destination box. Click the Restore button. This will back up your whole hard drive to the external.

When that is done, and while still booted from the DVD, use Disk Utility to Repair Disk. If it results in any errors being reported, run it again. Once no errors are reported, proceed with an Archive & Install. This will preserve your applications, user settings, preferences, etc.

If Disk Utility reports errors it cannot fix, you will need to proceed with an Erase & Install. After that you will have to recover your applications and user data from your backup.

Once you are all done with that, erase your external hard drive and use it with Time Machine. It will save your bacon if this kind of thing happens again.

May 27, 2009 11:23 AM in response to Király

I certainly hope I can, in some way, keep my files because I can't afford to lose them. That's why I didn't just go ahead and re-install a fresh copy of the OS. I need some major saving here.

I hooked up my 500 GB Seagate FreeAgent as instructed. Booted from the Install DVD and attempted the Restore three times. I got some error everytime. I thought repairing permissions on the hard disk and the external would help. For the external, Verify and Repair Disk Permissions went without a hitch, but for my hard disk, I got this error when trying to verify its permissions:

First Aid failed.
Disk Utility stopped verifying "HDD" because the following error was encountered.
Filesystem verify or repair failed.

And Disk Utility shows these details:

Verifying volume "HDD"
Checking Journaled HFS Plus volume.
Checking Extents Overflow file.
Checking Catalog file.
Invalid node structure
Volume check failed.
Error: Filesystem verify or repair failed.

May 27, 2009 11:42 AM in response to Király

I tried to use Disk Utility for another attempt at restoring, but I noticed my Mac partition, HDD (the Windows one says disk0s3) is greyed out. Placing the cursor over reveals a tooltip that says "Unmounted volume: HDD". Verfying HDD gives me the same error, but Repair Disk gave me this error:

Verfy and Repair volume "HDD"
Checking Journaled HFS Plus volume.
Checking Extents Overflow file.
Checking Catalog file.
Invalid record count
Volume check failed.
Error: Filesystem verify or repair failed.

So that's where I'm at now. What do I do next?

May 27, 2009 12:05 PM in response to osayifromcupertino

DiskWarrior ($100) might be able to repair the damaged filesystem.

Before spending money on that though, I'd do a fresh install of Leopard on your new external drive, and then boot up from it. See if your damaged internal drive will mount on the desktop. If so, grab your data from it and put it in the corresponding locations on your new external OS X drive. Set up your new external drive just as if you intend to run permanently from it. Then you can erase and reformat your internal drive, and use a cloning utility to copy your external drive to your internal drive. You can then boot up and run normally from your internal drive, and you have the external as a backup.

May 27, 2009 11:45 PM in response to osayifromcupertino

" Unmounted" indicates that the computer will not accept the drive partition which is possible if the "volume header" is corrupt or no valid file system/ structure is found; in essence, it's like a library in Fort Know: you know the books are there, you can see the building, but you cannot get in because you either lost the keys or that the doors are locked.
The only way to try is to start your Mac from the OSX disk itself and try and run fsck , failing that "repair disk", and "repair disk permissions" http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1417
and see if that resolves it.

The fact that your machine names the volume " disk0s3" indicates that the information about that volume is either lost or not accessible.

Any good?

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