View Widescreen in Full Screen

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View Widescreen in Full Screen

Hi,

I've got a client whom I believe is viewing a widescreen project on a full screen monitor. Does anyone know how I can preview a widescreen project in a full screen viewer to see what she is seeing?

Thanks,

Lawrence

Mac Pro 2 X 2.66 Xeon, Mac OS X (10.5.4)

Posted on May 27, 2009 2:38 AM

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Answer 1

gogiangigo

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May 27, 2009 2:58 AM in response to Lawrence Ingram_Ii

In FCP go to main menu>view>video display>digital cinema desktop preview.
Then hit Command+F12

G.

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Answer 2

May 27, 2009 3:45 AM in response to gogiangigo

Thanks G,

But I didn't see any settings in there that let me change it to a full-screen (4:3) viewer. My problem is that I've got a widescreen monitor, and I just want to look at how it appears on a full screen before I reply to her query.

Lawrence

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Answer 3

gogiangigo

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May 27, 2009 4:23 AM in response to Lawrence Ingram_Ii

Hi Lawrence,
maybe I am misunderstanding, you can view full screen with FCP or QT. full screen 4:3 on your monitor will show pillar boxes on both sides (vertical black bars, which are not in the video but compensate for the unused space of your widescreen monitor) and if 16:9 material have been letterboxed then in full screen you'll see black all around the actual image . If you have exported the movie open it with QT and hit Command +F, there you can see what above described. Same if you use FCP full screen option I previously mentioned.

G.

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Answer 4

Shane Ross

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May 27, 2009 9:40 AM in response to gogiangigo

Gogiangigo...you misunderstand. What Lawrence wants is to view the 16:9 footage as 4:3...FULL SCREEN. Meaning not letterboxed (bars on the top and bottom), not Pillar boxed (what you get when you put 4:3 into a 16:9 timeline)...but 16:9 zoomed in so all they see is the center part....the sides chopped off. This is also known as PAN & SCAN.

The only way I know how to do this is to take the 16:9 footage (exported movie would be easiest), drop it into a 4:3 timeline, then zoom in until it fills the screen. I don't know how they are doing it.

Shane

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Answer 5

May 27, 2009 1:14 PM in response to Shane Ross

Sorry guys,

I realize that the problem seems clear to me as I work on it, but I didn't describe it well at all. I have a 16:9 project. I have a 16:9 screen. My client is viewing the MPEG on a 4:3, and says that it has changed the dimensions of the logo ("elongated" was the word she used).

I am just trying to figure out what's happening, and thought it would be easier if I could imitate a 4:3 monitor for viewing my output. The best I have been able to come up with is viewing in QT Pro, and holding Option-Shift while I resize the window, and try to make it 4:3. This definitely has an impact on the logo, but I'm wondering if (as you guys described), the 4:3 monitor wouldn't just show the black bars on the top & bottom as I would have expected. I just can't tell what her monitor is doing with the image.

Thanks,

Lawrence

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Answer 6

May 27, 2009 1:25 PM in response to Lawrence Ingram_Ii

When you say their viewing the MPEG do you mean you made a dvd?
Are they looking at an anamorphic video clip?

o| TOnyTOny |o

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Answer 7

Shane Ross

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May 27, 2009 1:27 PM in response to Lawrence Ingram_Ii

Ahhh...you have an anamporphic 16:9 footage that you exported as 4:3...NOT 16:9. Therefore people are squeezed. Thinner/taller.

Like this:

Shane

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Answer 8

gogiangigo

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May 27, 2009 1:30 PM in response to Lawrence Ingram_Ii

Hey Lawrence,
just ignore everything that has been said so far for a moment and ask your client to send you a screen-grab of what they see. Don't rely on interpretable words. Tell them you need to see what they see.

G.

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Answer 9

May 27, 2009 2:10 PM in response to Lawrence Ingram_Ii

Easier and cheaper to buy your client a new TV set.
(Wish I were kidding.)

bogiesan

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Answer 10

May 27, 2009 5:41 PM in response to David Bogie Chq-1

I actually exported using the H264 for AppleTV preset in Compressor. Then, posted to the web. That's why it's so confusing. Every time I look at it, it's right. The only thing I could think of was her monitor. But she should be viewing in QT (or iTunes). And you're right G, I do need to see if I can explain how she can give me a screen grab. Or drive 7 hours to go see it for myself (which may be easier).

If my client were only 1 individual, viewing on 1 monitor, I probably would buy them a new set!

Hey, thanks for all the help guys. Didn't mean for it to be so difficult, I was just wondering if there was some way to mimic a 4:3 monitor from FCP so that I could see if that could be her problem. I'll have to call her tomorrow and see exactly how she's viewing this. Will post more info then.

Lawrence

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Answer 11

gogiangigo

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May 28, 2009 3:23 AM in response to Lawrence Ingram_Ii

.....if I can explain how she can give me a screen grab.

Is she on a PC? Than the button to use is PrtScn
[Here a tutorial|http://video.about.com/graphicssoft/WinXPScreenshot-mov.--8z.htm]

On a Mac there are several utilities/applicatoions including "Grab", however the most simple way is to hit Command Shift3 and the screenshot will be saved on the desktop. Simple.

Good luck Lawrence_:-)
G.

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Answer 12

May 28, 2009 2:07 PM in response to gogiangigo

I'm an idiot. I freely admit that. I can no longer think of a reason I would need a 4:3 viewer to see things from another perspective. I had forgotten that they had trouble downloading the larger version of the video, so I carelessly used a higher compression that put it into a 4:3. This caused the effect as shown in Shane's screenshot. So much work in the past few weeks and that had slipped my mind.

Thanks again for everyone's help! I'd owe you guys a several beers, but I doubt you're ever in Hattiesburg!

Lawrence

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