Adjusting print margins?

This drives me crazy... No problem connecting a printer and use it... BUT it seems impossible to avoid getting 3 cm of margins on all sides of the paper... I finally bought a new printer (Canon PixmaMP620) from the Apple store just to make sure it would be compatible... BUT it is exactly the same!

I have tried all like setting custom size paper with no margins... I guess it is a combination of the drivers to the printer and the underlying cups that handle the printer... I have not found any solution by Google my problem.

Can you help me?

Message was edited by: - Zapp -

Mac Book Pro, Mac OS X (10.5.6), Canon PixmaMP620

Posted on Jun 2, 2009 3:23 AM

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Oct 13, 2009 12:27 PM in response to - Zapp -

*OK, I may have your answer!!!! This is a problem I've been having as well. Like to drive me nuts.*

But I just successfully printed an item that was printing 3cm on the leading edge and on the left and right but not on the trailing edge. There it was 1/2 inch.

SO, here's what I did, step by step.

1) In the program (mine was Pages) go to FILE menu and then Page Set Up.
2) In the FORMAT FOR box I chose my printer (mine is HP OfficeJet Pro 8500 Premier).
3) In the PAPER SIZE box I chose Custom Sizes all the way at the bottom.
4) Then I selected the + button. It creates a new page called untitled. I clicked on the name and changed it to something I wanted other than untitled.
5) Then I chose in the Printers Margin box - The printer stated above.
6) In Paper Size I chose 8.5 for width and 11.4 for Height
7) Then you can move it around with the Left Top Bottom and Right boxes. I happen to set mine for ...Left .13 Top .12 Bottom .13 and Right .13

AND Walllla. It is working.

Wishing you the best and less frustration

Jun 2, 2009 4:30 AM in response to - Zapp -

Hello Zapp and welcome to the Apple forums.

Are you trying to print without a border? If so, then with the Canon driver you can select A4 Borderless in Page Setup (or the Print dialog for some apps like Preview) and then using the Borderless menu, adjust the amount of creep into the default margin.

If this is not your issue, then maybe you can provide some more information about the application/s you are using.

PaHu

Jun 2, 2009 4:56 AM in response to PAHU

Also found the following regarding Page Setup > Margins, which is from the Apple Developer document "Mac OS X Printing System Overview".

The default formatting printer, Any Printer, provides standard paper sizes with margins set to ensure
that the imageable area for each paper size is well within the area to which most printers can print.
Any Printer is the best choice as the formatting printer for a document that may be printed to different printers.

A specific printer should be chosen as the formatting printer only when the document must use the
imageable area defined by a specific printer or to select sheet sizes that are not available for the default Any Printer. For example, choosing a specific printer is necessary when a document must be printed to a printer that prints to the edge of a sheet or to a custom paper size.

If the user changes the formatting printer, the printing system attempts to match the paper size shown in the Paper Size menu to a paper size provided by the newly chosen formatting printer using these rules:
■ The printing system looks for a matching paper size. For example, if US Letter is shown in the
pop-up menu, the printing system looks for paper sizes of 8.5 by 11 inches.
■ If there is more than one matching paper size, the printing system chooses the matching paper
size whose page rectangle matches most closely.
■ If there are no matching paper sizes, the printing system adds the current paper size to the Paper
Size pop-up menu as an item named Other.

Jun 2, 2009 5:32 AM in response to PAHU

Thanks for your input!

I have tried to select my printer (not any printer) and also select A4 border less... The preview and result is still the same...

It is also the same from "any" text program I use to print from, like TextEdit, iWorks, xPad (or whatever the are called)...

The result is also the same with my new printer and my slightly older HP2110 printer...

Is there some configuration file for CUPS that I can edit to get 0 margins?

Jun 2, 2009 7:40 PM in response to PAHU

Well there appears to be a limitation with TextEdit. I am able to change the margins from the default 3cm to 1cm in Word via Page Setup and print this close to the edge.

However, with TextEdit, even after creating a custom paper size with 0.5cm left & right margin via the Page Setup menu, the text still displays and prints with a 2.5cm (1 inch) margin.

So it appears to be more of an application function rather than the a core printing system (CUPS) restriction.

Need to do some more reading of the developer guides and get back to you. However, I think you may not have too much ability to change the current symptom.

PaHu

Jun 3, 2009 3:36 AM in response to PAHU

Once more, thanks for your help!

I did try some more trix yesterday, but I still did not succeed... I did find the config files for CUPS, but they did not contain any margin settings... I also found the web interface to CUPS... Lots of settings there, but non that solves my problem... All I used to print on one page from my XP PC now needs two pages... I can set the print scale to 60% but the only half of the paper width is then used...

I'm still very thankful for any more help!

Just some reflections:

* I am a bit surprised that this does not seems to annoy more people switching from WIN to MAC...

* I can't see why it should be any problem to give full freedom of how much of the paper I print on... It should even be possible to set negative margins... When printing like that some of the text will not end up on paper - so what? Then it is just to increase the plot area (or margins) until it is perfect... Who to blame? Apple, text editor software developers, printer driver developers...

* This is the first negative thing I have encountered with my new MAC - I still like it very very much!

Sep 14, 2009 3:32 AM in response to - Zapp -

I am in the same position. I am trying to print address labels onto a 100mm x 62mm shipping label using a Brother QL-650. The printer needs a margin of 1.5 mm on the long side and 3 mm on the short side. The printer comes with a program (P-Touch) that can print right up to these borders, but when I try to print an address label (from safari) there is always an extra 7mm border at the top (so 10mm) and a 15mm border at the bottom, which knocks 22mm of printable space of the label.

I have spent 3 days messing with CSS, php, printer settings, and any other levers I can get my hands on, and nothin' Zip. Can't even cut and paste into the labelling software because it prints the HTML. Hate it.

I have tried Pages and TextEdit and they also have the insane margins. Perhaps Apple has hired an ex-Microsoft person to do this, who is trying to helpfully guess what we want then hard-wire it in. For our convenience, of course.

Perhaps Snow Leopard is better - but I don't have time to deal with all the things it will break.

I hate computers. Hate 'em. Should have been a plumber like my daddy said. I would be at the bowling alley by now, with the Porsche parked outside, and the blonde floozy with a voice that cuts glass bringing me drinks and filing her nails. "And," the Daddy always liked to point out, "ya can't outsource plumbing to Bangalore." **** right.

Nov 12, 2009 9:45 AM in response to - Zapp -

Hi folks:

I just thought I'd chime in here for those pulling their hair out with this same issue. Honestly, this is really the only goof-ball thing I have ever seen an Apple application do (having such a restriction on a flexible preference.)

Anyway, as inelegant as this is, it does work:

1. Create a New document in ANOTHER text application (like Word.)
2. Set your margins to what you want (I put mine at '0' all the way around to give myself as much flexibility as I ever will need)
3. SAVE the new document as a RTF (RICH TEXT FILE) FORMAT

Now you can use that as your Template and open that with TextEdit and your margins will be edge to edge of the paper and you can set your tabs and margins wherever you want.

It's the only workaround I could find that works.

Hope this helps!

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