Considering getting apple certified in Logic. To any certified guys.

I got certified in Logic-Level 1 last summer. I took the $999 course! It was a 3-day hands-on workshop. I found it hugely frustrating. It was WAY TOO FAST and you really don't have time to let things sit. I ended up going through the book again myself and then took the test which I passed. I would recommend going through the book 2 or 3 times (it's very understandable) and then taking the test. Save yourself a ton of money and actually learn something! Good luck.

Save your money, unless a production company or studio is paying for the Logic Pro Certification training for you. Just study the tutorial videos available at http://www.macprovideo.com/browse/logic

It is not what you know, it is who you know to make it in the music business.

Personally, I don't see much use for certification, unless you were purposely going into (or already in) the training field, where it's a badge that perhaps Apple trainees (and therefore customers) might be expecting to see.

It's expensive, and I would be interested if anyone who did it (trainers aside) would come back and say it's made a big difference in their musical career.

To be honest, I'd quite like to look at the exams to see how well I'd do cold, just out of curiosity.... 🙂

I'm Apple Certified, Level 2 for Logic 8.

I took the class in LA with David Nhamani (Author of the Logic 8 Level 1 book).

I'll answer the question in two parts:

The Learning:
Pros: The class was fantastic. I studied level 1 on my own, and then I took the Level 1 test on the second day of class for level 2.
He was a very good, experienced instructor and I got all kinds of power user tips and tricks.
It was also good being able to collaborate with other Logic users, and overall, I really enjoyed the class.
Once you are finished, you are able to use the Apple certified logo on business cards and websites, and you get certificates for your wall to display. (Obviously, these are only as valuable as you make them to be.) You also get to take part in various surveys from Logic's development team to provide direct feedback to them.

Cons: Expensive. The certification does not guarentee ANYTHING. All it does is give you a credential which you can use to HELP you promote yourself. But this doesn't open ANY doors in and of itself.
You still have to build relationships, and build your reputation.

The biggest letdown for me was applying to an Apple store for a job.
For a little background, I've been playing guitar, bass, drums, keys for over 15 years, and 6 of those years have been professionally. I'm an audio engineer with Logic 8 as my studio centerpiece. I have been in the Air Force for 6 years, and I got a special duty assignment playing for the Air Force band as their guitarist. I did a world tour with them as the band leader, guitarist and live audio engineer. I've got an Associate's degree, and I'm almost done with my Master's certificate from Berklee college of music.
I got apple certified, Level 2 in Logic and I applied to the Apple stores here in Arizona to be a Creative. (For which they had openings.)

When, after 5 months, I finally did get into a group interview, I was upbeat and very team player "drink-the-apple-koolaid."
Point being, I have some valid experience (You'd think it would be a no-brainer) with a positive attitude.

It didn't do one thing for me, and they let me know short and sweet that they went with other candidates.
That was very eye-opening about this certification.

To be fair, I also use the Apple certified logo on business cards and advertising as a music teacher/audio engineer and I get fairly consistent business with it. But it's hard to objectively say that it's because I'm "Apple Certified."

So the final conclusion? Build relationships, and get experience however you can. That's still the only way to get to where you want to be.

IMO credentials may help sometimes, but in the music industry it's still about who you know.

For me, I've decided to keep my day job (Air traffic control) so that I can easily pay for all the music stuff and support my family.
That keeps the music as my love, not my job.

If you are just looking to get better at Logic, the check out SFlogicninja on Youtube.com.
Also check out www.logicprohelp.com.

There are plenty of great learning resources that will make you a power user.

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SOME Apple stores, like all retail, hire with their eyes and other body parts other than their brains.

Like everyone else. Shouldn't be that way, but that's just the reality of the mall workplace.

And why the "other candidates" were in their early 20's and just slightly on the "nerd" side of Abercrombie & Fitch.

Too bad you're not in Las Vegas. We contacted the three local "certifieds" on the Apple website for private tutoring with no reply whatsoever.

Hi Leslie,

Maybe I'm not listed...I'm in Vegas, too. And a Level 1 Logic Pro 8 Certified Trainer.

Let me know if I can help : )

Take care,

J.F.

Definitely... you can click on my name to send some e-mail direct.

Thanks!