Apple Pro Keyboard with Mac OS 9?

I recently was given an Apple Pro keyboard model A1048. I've found that the specs state it will only work with X 10.2 or later.

Well I plugged it into my Mac OS 9.2.2 system just to see what would happen. Mostly the keyboard worked fine. But there are a few keys that don't work:
F16
Vol up
Vol down
Disk eject
and a couple of others in the group of keys on the upper right of the keyboard.

Is there any hope of finding software that will make the keyboard fully operational with 9.2.2?

Gary

G4, Mac OS 9.2.x

Posted on Jun 6, 2009 8:12 AM

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Jun 7, 2009 5:31 AM in response to Allan Eckert

I would suggest that you look into migrating over to something a bit newer.


Don't get me started. Let's just say thta I tried X for a year, found it full of bugs; found it "broke" many of the applications I used all the time; was "cheesy" with its puffs of smoke and dancing icons; and in general failed to deliver on ease of use and quality that Steve Jobs inferred in each of his smoke and mirrors keynote speeches.

I have no plans on using anything beyond 9.2.2. Once I can no longer repair my existing Macs, I will be a Windows user exclusively.

Jun 6, 2009 9:01 AM in response to Gary - former developer

Hi Gary;

That is one of the major restrictions with remaining on a outdated version of an operating system so much of the newer equipment just will not work because no one is supporting it any longer. So unless you have an absolute requirement to remain on OS 9 which is no longer supported, I would suggest that you look into migrating over to something a bit newer.

Allan
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Jun 7, 2009 5:59 AM in response to Gary - former developer

Hi Gary - former developer;

Sorry to hear that. For me it was exactly the opposite experience. At first I was spending most of my time over on the OS 9 side but I was really surprised at how quickly I dropped OS 9. I also found that the newer OS X applications were more powerful and intuitive to use.

What version of OS X did you use for a year?

I did find that before 10.2, it did have some serious problems but I now find Leopard to be rock solid.

If you go back to Windows you have my deepest sympathies. Since retiring from IBM the lack of having to use Windows even with deskside support and IBM's special version of Windows has been a real blessing for me.

Allan
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Jun 7, 2009 8:20 AM in response to Allan Eckert

What version of OS X did you use for a year?


There were about 20 versions as I recall starting with pre-retail developer versions through 10.1.14 or whatever the last version of 10.1 was. I wasted SO much time with X that I simply don't trust Apple any longer. With 9.2.2 I have an OS that is predictable (and predictably buggy - but manageable).

And the "planned obsolescence" is just getting worse with the departure from PPC microprocessors.

I can no longer afford the high cost of staying current with Apple.

Gary

Jun 7, 2009 10:38 AM in response to Gary - former developer

There are several suppliers of new/old-stock or refurbished vintage
Apple Keyboards of the type best suited for the older dual-booting
Mac OS X and OS 9 computers; also for the single-boot OS 9 era.

Occasionally I look and find listings online, of these, some are stores
with a longer term presence compared to those fleetingly auction-like.

A search, such as this google related directly to an Apple Pro m7803
yields a variety of results, some quite adequate among the inside links:
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=applepro+keyboard+m7803&aq=f&oq=Mac+OS+9+specific+keyboard&aqi=&aq=0&oq=Apple+ProKeyboard&aqi=g10&fp=1mZ_-PL2Zjc

There also are third-party keyboards from quality vendors still out
there which may be in various states, from new to still good, used.
And sources of older hardware, some repaired or refurbished; so
it is possible to still get spare parts for older machines right now.

The situation is in some ways similar to when the beige computer
boxes went into history and for the most part, took SCSI with them.
The durable hardware and the software sets running in them were
fairly good to great at the time; and for those still owning & using
these, they have networked and keep up on replacement hardware.
So it should be with those who still have a need for OS 9 products.

Good luck & happy computing! 🙂

PS: OS X 10.4.11 is quite good, other than Panther 10.3.9 for some
vintage products (at the time) was leaps ahead of older versions
and hardly bears a comparison to the early days of 10.0.0 - 10.2.8.
And Tiger is the last OS X capable of supporting Classic/9. +Worth it.

Jun 8, 2009 6:00 AM in response to Allan Eckert

Allan Eckert wrote:
Hi Gary;

That is one of the major restrictions with remaining on a outdated version of an operating system so much of the newer equipment just will not work because no one is supporting it any longer. So unless you have an absolute requirement to remain on OS 9 which is no longer supported, I would suggest that you look into migrating over to something a bit newer.


Sorry for jumping in here. But I just have to mention that I've been using OS9 since it first came, and I'm not getting rid of it. It's customised to pitch-perfection for my personal use, e.g. a lot of the extensions have been chucked out.

It's stable like a rock (and has been for several years) and its responsiveness is INSTANT -- the OS as well as the programs I use. Menues and dialogue boxes appear instantly. Text appears as I type. Most documents in most programs scroll in perfect synchrony with my finger movements on the mouse, irrespective of document size or the presence/absence of images and and tables (Photoshop is a bit slow with large files). The cursor ends up where I move the mouse, and not half-a-centimeter on the side, under, or wherever.

I have NONE of that as regular features in Tiger. Some programs work fine, others don't. The OS itself is noticeably more sluggish than OS9. I suggest you try the two systems side by side some day. You'll be surprised at OS9's superiority in terms of responsiveness. Sometime in the future, I hope to be able to tweak Tiger to OS9 standards. Fingers crossed.

Still, Tiger is beautiful, useful, more up-to-date, and no doiubt technically more well-adjusted to modern times, and thus it's also my main OS. However, that's mostly because new versions of programs require it, my printer does't have OS9 drivers, and more and more web pages require OSX browser. (Although the web works fine in OS9, at least for the most part, e.g. youtube, but secure banking doesn't.)

Personally, I'm a bit offended (perhaps a too strong word) when I ses suggestions (however well-intended) to migrate away from OS9, as if OS9 users don't know what they're doing. I boot regularly into OS9, almost daily, full well knowing what I do, and doing so because it offers me advantages that Tiger can't give to me.

The versions of MS Word (5.1), Photoshop (4/5), FileMaker (5), etc., that I use in OS9 have all the bells and whistles I need. I use them for professional purposes. They work smoother and quicker than any of the more recent versions, even though there are functions that are obviously technically more pleasing in later versions.

The only thing that's become a real problem is Unicode, which my OS9 programs don't support. Hence I have to do a bit of editing in Tiger versions of, say, Word, before I can disseminate a word file to others. But I don't mind. The time I save by having a smooth work flow in OS9 is worth it.

Sorry for the rant.

Jun 8, 2009 6:34 AM in response to jofima

Hi jofima;

Sorry to have ruffled your feathers with my suggestion to abandon OS 9. I guess since we are using our Mac differently, we see the two operating systems in a different light.

For the work I do I find that I must use OS X. My original plan was to maintain OS 9 along with OS X as long as I could but when I discovered I was no longer using OS 9 to do anything at all, I deleted it about a year after installing OS X and have not had it on any of my Macs since. For me it is not so much a matter of OS 9 verses OS X but more a matter of the newer versions of the applications that only run under Leopard now. They are so much better then the older version I can see no way for me to go back.

Later this year when I upgrade my PowerMac G5 Quad to a Mac Pro that will make any thoughts of going back to OS 9 for me mute.

Allan
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