Korg MicroKONTROL; Logic forces it into native?

I've just bought a Korg MicroKONTROL. I read about the "scenes" and I'd like to use the Logic mode.

Everytime I hook up the MicroKONTROL, the device goes directly into native mode. When I try to change that by using the Scene button it doesn't work.
I've tried to look it up in the manual, but it says I have to make a setting in the DAW.

Does anybody know where I can find this setting so it keeps the Korg in Logic mode?

thanks in advance.

MacBook ('07), Mac OS X (10.4.11), 2GB RAM, Focusrite Saffire PRO 10 i/o, Korg MicroKONTROL

Posted on Jun 8, 2009 1:07 PM

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Posted on Jun 8, 2009 1:54 PM

Logic will tell the Korg to go into native mode when it loads and finds a MicroKontrol connected.

If you do not ever want to use native mode, then the only way to stop this is to control-click on the Logic application item, select Show Package Contents and navigate into the MIDI Device plugins folder, and remove the microKontrol bundle.

Now when Logic starts, it doesn't know what a MicroKontrol is or how to talk to it, so it ignores it and the MicroKontrol does not go into native mode, it just acts as a regular dumb MIDI controller.

Note - I have done extensive setups with the MIcroKontrol, and the absolute best way to use it with Logic is with LC Xmu from OpusLocus. It's far better than using it any other way, imo...
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Jun 8, 2009 1:54 PM in response to Jan Voortwist

Logic will tell the Korg to go into native mode when it loads and finds a MicroKontrol connected.

If you do not ever want to use native mode, then the only way to stop this is to control-click on the Logic application item, select Show Package Contents and navigate into the MIDI Device plugins folder, and remove the microKontrol bundle.

Now when Logic starts, it doesn't know what a MicroKontrol is or how to talk to it, so it ignores it and the MicroKontrol does not go into native mode, it just acts as a regular dumb MIDI controller.

Note - I have done extensive setups with the MIcroKontrol, and the absolute best way to use it with Logic is with LC Xmu from OpusLocus. It's far better than using it any other way, imo...

Jun 10, 2009 5:12 AM in response to Bee Jay

I occasionally use the Logic scene in Pro 7 & Logic Studio, but found it is better to make your own MIDI map for the MicroKontrol that suits your workflow.
If you hold down the SETTING, MESSAGE, SCENE and EXIT keys together it will take it out of Native mode, which I find helpful if I want to switch to using the drum pads as note triggers I've assigned, rather than as playback control. This is also good if you use ReWire for say, Reason, as you can disassociate the MicroKontrol from Logic and use it with you ReWired program, then switch back without closing any sessions.

It could just be my backwards way of working though!
I'll have to check out the software Bee Jay mentioned. When I got my MicroKontrol (when it first came out) I had to literally write myself an instruction manual on MIDI assignments etc and how to do it from the controller rather than through MIDI-dump which I never had much success with.

Ed

Jun 10, 2009 6:04 AM in response to Ed@EASR

It could just be my backwards way of working though!


No, I think your comments are pretty typical and echo what I went through. The low end controllers are always a hassle to do what you want, unless what you want is really basic stuff.

When I got my MicroKontrol (when it first came out) I had to literally write myself an instruction manual on MIDI assignments etc and how to do it from the controller rather than through MIDI-dump which I never had much success with.


It's why the "proper" control surfaces have a big win over the cheaper ones - they are designed to work, are labelled correctly, and you don't have to configure anything, or work out how to set up what you want. It's one of the reasons why Logic/Mackie Controls are so much better.

And the benefit of LC Xmu is it effectively turns the MIcroKontrol into a Logic Control, with much of the functionality, and no setting up required.

Jun 9, 2009 12:06 PM in response to Jan Voortwist

The MicroKontrol contains a Logic template "scene" which is a generic dumb mapping for Logic. Remeber, Logic only started to support the MIcroKontrol natively (ie much better than dumb MIDI mappings) from Logic 7 - there are still plenty of Logic 5's and 6's still out there, especially in the PC world.

And just because there is this "preset", doesn't mean it's good or should be used.

Logic's MicroKontrol native mode is better than the Logic scene in terms of what you can do. My custom manual setup was better than that (though not perfect because of flaws in Logic's controller assignment handling) and LC Xmu is way better than all of them.

The Logic "scene" is the worst of the lot, imo.

But by all means try it out, and find out what works for you best - your needs may well be different to mine.

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