13" MBP SATA interface downgraded to 1.5 Gigabit

OK, I see, didn't know SSD could get that fast. I just don't see the big deal. I guess you pay less you get less.

You are wrong again... If you buy a fast Solid State Drive like Intel, Corsair, Samsung, OCZ, etc; they are extremely expensive and fast enough to saturate 1.5 Gbps bandwith on SATA I.

Also, I wouldn't call a $1500 notebook cheap; a $300 netbook is cheap...

The big deal, is that if you are willing to spend $700 on a fast SSD and $1500 or more on a notebook, you want maximum performance which is why you would buy a Pro labeled machine; because you need it for work or simply because you want the fastest possible notebook....

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Guys does this only apply to the 13 and 15 'Without' the SSD? I just ordered a MBP 17 with a 3.06 and 128Gb SSD today and I'll be set ****** if It's limited like this.

I'm just trying to weigh the issue.

The way I see it, 1500.00 is cheap. I had to pay way more than that in the previous version.

If a person who is willing to buy a 1500.00 mac, I can't really see that person willing to spend 700-1000 bucks for a SSD which would be slower than next years SSD. To me it's ridiculous, an overkill for saving and loading files. Sorry to bother you guys. Excuse me.

No...it's been reported that 17" have SATA II interface at 3.0

Don't weigh in on the issue.

1) If SATA II 3.0 interface is available and one chooses an SSD from Apple, the machine should be "good" for a few years or at least for as long as the intended user wants

2) If you're going to compare apples to apples (no pun), then you need to compare processor and RAM as well. No sense getting a bottom-of-the-line MacBook and then trying to jam an SSD in it.

3) There are a lot of benefits to an SSD - your oversimplification is a bother.

@LCee: I am not trying to attack you or anything, but what you are saying doesn't make too much sense.

To you $1500 is cheap, yet Apple determined it to be a worthy price for a Pro level notebook. Then you say spending $700 on an SSD on a $1500 computer makes no sense because of price when a faster SSD will come out next year (also an Apple BTO option); well if you want top of the line technology you have to pay for it, so you are contradicting yourself.

The 13" MacBook Pro is $1500 notebook, yet it is a very powerful machine that is capable of taking advantage of a fast SSD, and would be even better if the SATA bus was not capped at 1.5 Gbps.

So what would you suggest if $1500 is cheap? Not to sound rude, but I can afford extremely expensive computers, thus I have two workstations worth over $10.000 each and yet I don't see $1500 as cheap, I see it as a great price for a machine I think is worth every penny.

And just to clarify, how exactly are you helping this thread and those of us who purchased the computers and are trying to fix this issue???

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@LCEE

If you "weigh in on the issue", then provide some helpful information. No one wants to hear your misinformed opinions on SSDs and your perception of "cheap".
You are just wasting forum space.

So either stick to the actual topic or STFU!

Hi,

Has anyone been able to confirm that the connection is actually 1.5 Gigabit? It could be possible that it's just a bug in what's being reported, rather than the connection actually being that slow.

Ken

Please read all the posts...YES, there have been screen shots of the 13" with a pre-installed SSD running at SATA 1.5

The focus is now on 15"

Apparently, 17" still has SATA II at 3.0, but no screen shots yet.

Biggest issue is regarding Apple's decision to limit SATA if consumers do NOT order their SSD's from Apple. This is what is ******* most people off...

For me, I have ordered a 15" 2.8 with 256 gb SSD, so we're waiting to see configs when it arrives.

CTB,

Your computer (and ALL current 15" configs) will have a 1.5 SATA connection. Having an Apple-installed or customer installed SSD is not the issue.

krypttic

Are you sure about this? What/who is your source?

Has there been reported by a real new 15" MBP user with SSD from Apple to show 1.5 SATA connection?

I was also planing to buy a new 15" MBP fully specced but if 15" with 256 Apple SSD is also at 1.5Gb/sec interface i will wait till this issue is fixed.

Andrei

My sources are postings on Macrumors from those who have SSDs--although I confess to not seeing any screenshots yet. I have an SSD in mine, but Apple did not install it.


krypttic

Are you sure about this? What/who is your source?

Has there been reported by a real new 15" MBP user with SSD from Apple to show 1.5 SATA connection?

I was also planing to buy a new 15" MBP fully specced but if 15" with 256 Apple SSD is also at 1.5Gb/sec interface i will wait till this issue is fixed.

Andrei

Guys does this only apply to the 13 and 15 'Without' the SSD? I just ordered a MBP 17 with a 3.06 and 128Gb SSD today and I'll be set **** if It's limited like this.

Hi,
It appears the issue does not apply to the new 17" MacBook Pro. I have the 17" mid 2009 MacBook Pro 2.8GHz and it has a 3 Gigabit Serial-ATA interface. You can see the Apple System Profiler screen here:

http://www.amug.org/mid2009-macbookpro17.jpg

Have a great day!

The 17" models were not refreshed with the recent round of eh-hem "updates"... so they are still set to 3.0Gb. Hopefully they can send out a firmware update to correct this. Likewise... I would not be happy to see a firmware update come out for older machines giving them a free "upgrade" to 1.5Gb... then you'll hear some screaming.