9 Replies Latest reply: Jun 14, 2009 7:15 PM by Alley_Cat
drshame Level 1 Level 1 (85 points)
How can I connect my ATV to my Big Screen TV thru the regular RCA Video Input?
Is there a way to combine the component RBG outs to a single Video Out?
My TV doesn't have an HDMI input and the component inputs are already in use by my HD Cable Box?
This is a severly limited platform.

Mac Pro 2.6 Dual Core X2, Mac OS X (10.5.7), 5 Gig Ram, (4) X 500 Gig HD, Apple Bluetooth-Airport Card
  • crhendo1 Level 1 Level 1 (30 points)
    Hi, this has been answered a number of times elsewhere in this group.

    There are 2 solutions to this. The easy one is to set the ATV resolution to 480i (or 576i for PAL) and plug a composite lead from the yellow terminal on the TV to the Green terminal on the ATV. This will give you a perfectly usable B&W picture.

    The more tricky one is described in the YouTube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlhIexkjfuk&NR=1 . The parts are very easy to get and it is not as tricky as it seems to be.

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  • drshame Level 1 Level 1 (85 points)
    Maybe it should be pinned and posted somewhere.
    Why would anyone want HD Black & White out of an ATV?
  • Chenks Level 5 Level 5 (7,420 points)
    no-one would want B&W, but if you are connecting the appletv to a TV via a connection method that is not supported, then you should not expect to get a proper image.

    as it's not an official or supported method of connection, i don't think it to be wise to pin it. that would suggest that it is a supported method of connection (which it isn't).
  • drshame Level 1 Level 1 (85 points)
    I can understand why it shouldn't be pinned.
    There are Video Converter Boxes for everything.
    I was looking for anyone who knew of a component video break-out adapter to convert RGB Video to a regular old-fashioned composite signal.
    The Big question would be how much does it cost and is it even worth the bother in the first place.

    I am trying to extend the usefulness of the ATV to use on an older TV Set...and 2 obsolete products should work well together.

    I've found the Mac Mini, with it's latest video capabilities, to be a much better home theater solution.
  • Chenks Level 5 Level 5 (7,420 points)
    The Apple TV doesn't output in RGB, its component signals are YCbCr (or YPbPr i can never remember which).
  • Ge0ph Level 2 Level 2 (405 points)
    drshame wrote:
    2 obsolete products should work well together.

    What 2 obsolete products are you talking about? The only obsolete product I see here is your TV.

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  • drshame Level 1 Level 1 (85 points)
    For it's limited capabilities, imho, the ATV is useful but has been eclipsed by the new Mini with it's greatly improved processing power and video capability.
    For a basic system designed several years ago, the ATV provides barely adequate performance and ties users directly to either I-Tunes or limited outside content.
    Yes, I hacked my ATV enabling the USB to use an external HD and keyboard.
    Yes, I ran Firefox on my Big Screen with it and was able to FTP content into it and play it outside of I-Tunes.
    But it didn't work well and was a hack.
    I wanted an improved Media System and found a much-improved and updated ATV: It's called "Mac Mini".

    And yes, I found a break-out box that converts component to composite video to use the ATV in an older TV.

    Too bad the converter's about $150 bucks...and I'll spend that money on another external HD .

    NOT a rant against the ATV....for my needs the Mini is a better solution.
    For simplicity and ease of use, with limited capabilities, the ATV is still an option for very basic digital home media.

    But Apple's got a much better product it should promote more for home theater applications.
  • Amanda Enstrom Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
    It's not that hard. Get your standard red/yellow/white cables. You will also need a paperclip and a HDMI(male)-DVI(female) adapter. Go to the main finder window/menu (the one that comes up when the ATV first launches).

    -Unwind the paperclip (or use bell-wire) to connect pin 14 to 16 of the DVI side. (For a diagram of which pin is which look up DVI on Wikipedia. )
    -Plug your composite-yellow in the green "slot" (this will give you an image, but BW)
    -unplug the composite-yellow, plug an male HDMI-female DVI adapter (with an unwound paperclip connecting pin 14 to 16)
    -Let about 30 seconds go by
    -unplug the HDMI-DVI adapter and replug the composite-yellow, when the image comes back, it comes back full color
    -If it doesn't, make sure the metal is touching the inside metal clips of 14 and 16 and try again (make sure you are letting enough time go past).

    The negative of this method is that it will go back to b/w every time the apple tv loses power. You could avoid this with a UPS or just keep the ATV somewhere accessible.

    I use this adapter: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000FUVNX8/ref=oxya_ohproduct
  • Alley_Cat Level 6 Level 6 (18,680 points)
    The mini is clearly more versatil however, it costs at least twice as much and a big downside for many would be lack of HDMI. Yes you can go the route of DVI to HDMI, but it doesn't work as well unless you have a TV that can do 1:1 pixel mapping, as many sets give problems with under/overscanning.