13 Replies Latest reply: Jun 16, 2009 4:07 PM by JofCore
JofCore Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
Is it possible to load songs / sync your iPod from a shared library in iTunes?

The reason I want to do this is so that I can load songs on/off my iPod from either my notebook or my desktop machine. I currently have the desktop sharing it's music library, and I can see it on the notebook, but I don't seem to be able to copy songs to my iPod this way using the notebook.

It would be really nice, since otherwise I have to maintain 2 music libraries and that's kind of a pain.... or can I load the music library from my desktop over the network on my notebook?

Basically I just want to have a "master" music library in iTunes on the desktop and be able to load songs from either machine. It's kind of a pain to have to maintain the library separately on both machines...

any ideas or suggestions would be appreciated!

thanx!

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  • turingtest2 Level 9 Level 9 (55,285 points)
    Share the top level iTunes folder on the desktop over the network with full access permissions. On the laptop press & hold down SHIFT immediately after clicking on the iTunes icon to launch it - after a few seconds this should give you an option to choose or create a library. Navigate & open the library on the desktop. You can now edit & sync at either library, however don't open the library on both computers at the same time. This assumes all your music is in the usual iTunes Music folder below the main iTunes folder.

    tt2
  • JofCore Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Hey, thanks for the reply!

    Ok, I have access to the entire drive on my desktop due to my existing network settings. I did what you suggested and held down shift, and then found my iTunes library file on the desktop under My Documents\My Music\iTunes.

    however, when I load the library from that location on the desktop via the laptop, it loads the library up in iTunes, but then it puts the little ! mark next to every song in the list and says it can't find any of them

    It seems it doesn't understand where to look since the paths in the library (I'm assuming) point to a path on the desktop.

    My music is all stored on the desktop in a folder called "c:\mp3". This folder is also shared so I could access it from the notebook... but obviously it wouldn't be on the c: drive on the notebook... Hmmmm.
  • JofCore Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    argh, and now I can't access the library on my desktop because "the library was created with a newer version of iTunes". Guess I need to update my desktop to the latest version of iTunes....
  • JofCore Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    OK, got it working on the desktop again. Still same issue on the laptop though... doesn't know where to find any of the songs (I'm assuming due to path issues, but not sure how to resolve that).
  • turingtest2 Level 9 Level 9 (55,285 points)
    turingtest2 wrote:
    ...This assumes all your music is in the usual iTunes Music folder below the main iTunes folder.

    You can't access the files from the laptop as this assumption turns out to be false. iTunes seems to with a change in the absolute path to the files provided the relative path from the main library to the target file remains unchanged. See this thread for a previous discussion on this topic.

    I presume your iTunes library files are at C:\Documents and Settings\<User>\My Documents\My Music\iTunes. With iTunes closed copy everything from iTunes into C:\. SHIFT-Launch iTunes and open the library at *C:\iTunes Library.itl*. Make sure you have access to all the media. Close iTunes. Now on the laptop use SHIFT-Launch iTunes to open the same file across the network. This time it should work. The one caveat is with any iPod games (see <a href"http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=9594204">here) as iTunes fails to use the relative path. It should be possible to relink these using the UNC path, i.e. for each game attempt to "Get Info" and then browse to \\<desktop>\<sharename>\iPod Games\<game>.ipg . Once linked in this way they should be accessible from either location.

    tt2
  • JofCore Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Thanks for the reply!

    I'm still having issues from the laptop though

    Here's what I did: On the desktop, I copied the following files from the iTunes dir under My Documents to c:\
    iTunes Library.itl
    iTunes Library Genius.itb

    then on the desktop, I did the SHIFT-open of iTunes, and pointed it at the new location of the iTunes library on C: I also renamed the old iTunes Library.itl file under My Documents to be absolutely sure it wasn't using that one. That seemed to work fine, desktop sees the info and all works good there.

    Then I went to the laptop, and did the SHIFT-open iTunes there. On the laptop, I have the C: drive of the desktop mapped to H:. So I pointed iTunes to the library that's located at H:\iTunes Library.itl. It opens up, but same thing is happening when I try to play or "Get Info" on any song... puts the ! there, and says it can't find it. Seems it's not using a relative path for some reason?

    Maybe there's something I missed or did wrong... I appreciate all your help! I'm close I can tell, but not quite there yet
  • JofCore Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    OK, I found a possible workaround, but I don't know if it's neccessarily the easiest or best way.

    Here's what I did: On the desktop, I mapped the I: drive (for iTunes, so I can remember it :P) to \\itself\mp3. Then as a test, I removed some music from the library, and re-added it from the I: drive instead of the C: drive.

    Then on the laptop, I also mapped I: to \\desktop\mp3. I opened up iTunes using the library on the desktop, and the music that I had added from the I: drive was there and usable!

    Now... as I said, I'm not sure if this is the best or easiest way, since for this to work I have to remove and re-add all my music (over 4k songs) to iTunes....

    Is there a way to easily mass-update the iTunes library to point it to I: instead of C:?

    thanx!
  • JofCore Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    I tried editing the iTunes Libarary.xml file but that apparently didn't do it
  • turingtest2 Level 9 Level 9 (55,285 points)
    JofCore wrote:
    I tried editing the iTunes Libarary.xml file but that apparently didn't do it

    The XML file may sometimes be used to rebuild the library if the main itl file is damaged, otherwise it is there for access by 3rd party tools. Did you try opeing the library at I:\ on the desktop? Does is have access to everything, not just the stuff you removed & reimported. Another thought.. perphaps becuase everything is still at the old location, C:\mp3\... iTunes doesn't need to check for it at the relative path on the desktop machine, so doesn't make the connection and thus hold onto the old absolute path. What happens if you create a new folder called say c:\iTunes, and move the library files, album artwork folders and the mp3 folder into it? Can you open this library c:\iTunes\iTunes Library.itl and play things? Having been there can you now get access over the network?

    BTW what version of iTunes are you using? I'm fairly sure I was using 8.1 at the time of that earlier thread and it may only have worked due to the changes that seemed to have speeded up the library in recent builds.

    tt2
  • haroldmm7@verizon.net Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Dear folks, I choose to change my iTunes from Manual back to automatic. Problem is.....When my iPod is connected the music folder from the itouch All songs are Grayed out and play nothing from that area. So is everything else that's on the player. If I go the My Library I have access to everything. What's the problem? Please Help! Thanks Harold
  • turingtest2 Level 9 Level 9 (55,285 points)
    haroldmm7@verizon.net wrote:
    Dear folks, I choose to change my iTunes from Manual back to automatic. Problem is.....When my iPod is connected the music folder from the itouch All songs are Grayed out and play nothing from that area. So is everything else that's on the player. If I go the My Library I have access to everything. What's the problem? Please Help! Thanks Harold

    Hi Harold.

    To start a new thread drill down to a specific forum, e.g. Using iTunes for Windows rather than a category such as iTunes for Windows which gathers related forums together.

    If you're automatically syning your iPod then all the content on it will also be in your library, so playing content from the iPod is uneccessary. Likewise the option to edit the content, e.g. modify tags, is disabled.

    No problem - no solution.

    tt2
  • haroldmm7@verizon.net Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Thank you tt2, I am pretty new here and not too familiar with procedure style of this forum. Thanks also for your info regarding my iTouch. I appreciate you solving my dilemma. Harold.
  • JofCore Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Ok, I ended up just removing and re-adding all my music from the I: "shared" drive on the desktop. Then I can open the iTunes library file from either place, and they both access the music from the I: drive now, so iTunes seems to find the path(s) ok on either machine

    Thanks for all your assistance!