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Hard drive click + beep

I recently purchased a new MBP 15, 3 Ghz, 500 GB 7200 rpm hard drive, build-to-order. The hard drive appears to be a seagate ST9500420ASG. I am experiencing a strange hard drive click followed 80% of the time by a beep. It is definitely not a beep from the speaker. Additionally, it happens at any time, even when the computer is sitting on a perfectly still table. It is exactly the same sound as what is documented at

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gOhgaIMpPI

and mine too appears randomly approximately 15-20 times per day. It does not appear to matter if the computer is under light or heavy use and it seems truly random when it occurs. Another user on youtube has also experienced this with their new MBP 15 and sent me a wav file with the same sound mine is making. So far, his experience is that it does NOT occur under bootcamp. This leads me to believe that it is something specific to OSX. Turning off the "put hard drive to sleep when possible" does not seem to make any difference. I have not personally tested bootcamp on my machine to confirm that mine is the same, but the original poster of the youtube video linked above also seems to think it is OSX specific.

Any clues? Should I try to get apple to swap the HD for a new one? Any help is greatly appreciated.

MacBook Pro 15 Mid 2009, Mac OS X (10.5.7), Hard Drive ST9500420ASG

Posted on Jun 20, 2009 10:14 AM

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Jun 25, 2009 1:05 AM in response to wessto

Same problem here. 3.06 17" with the (likely culprit) 500 GB 7200 drive.

Quite frequently from the back left I hear the faint click, then loud beep everyone describes. Loud enough that the guy sitting next to me hears it as well. Definitely not a normal hard drive sound.

What's worse, it is affecting the performance of the machine. If I'm playing a game or intensive application, the whole machine seizes up for a brief moment until the beep finishes. It's a miniscule pause, but very annoying when doing a timing sensitive task.

Apple really needs to respond to this. May be a widespread drive problem

Jun 25, 2009 1:31 AM in response to BrerBear

Hi all,

I've just taken delivery of a 17" MBP with a 500GB 7200rpm drive. I don't think it can be anything other than the drive making the noises. I believe the clicking noise is the head parking and the squeaking/beeping noise is the drive spinning up again. I think it is down to the power setting and the MBP's motion sensor that is causing the drive to stop/start and park the head. You could probably eliminate some of it by setting the drive to be powered on all of the time but sacrificing battery power as a consequence. However a drive should not be that noisy especially when you're paying for a premium product. Might be worth giving Apple support a call to see what their take is on it. Quite frankly it's unacceptable.

Brian.

Jun 25, 2009 5:56 AM in response to wessto

I don't think there is any question it's the hard drive that's making the "beep" sound. The optical drive is on the same side of the MacBook Pro as the HD, so perhaps that's confused a couple of posters, but it's the hard drive. I can also say for certain, in response to another post, that it is not caused by movement of the MacBook Pro. I get the beep with the MBP sitting on my desk, untouched.

My question is has anyone without the Seagate 500GB 7200 RPM drive (ST9500420ASG) heard the beep? I believe it is specific to this hard drive, but I'd like to know for sure.

FWIW: It's odd that Apple is using the G version (G-Force) of the Seagate drives. MacBooks already contain a technology called "SMS" (sudden motion sensing) that does the same thing the G-Force technology does in the Seagates (park the drive head immediately in the event of a sudden movement of the MacBook). My understanding from previous conversations with Apple was, that if you used a drive with its own version of SMS protection, you needed to disable SMS on the MacBook. However, a quick check of the terminal shows SMS is enabled in the new MacBook Pro.

I have been using a non G-Force version of the same Seagate drive in another 15" Unibody MacBook Pro (2.8 Ghz/4GB/late 2008) and it doesn't have the beeping issue. Apple told me (I called support and talked with them back when I was purchasing the drive for the other MBP) that if I purchased the "G" version of the drive (the non "G-Force" versions were very hard to find, hence the call to Apple), to be sure to disable SMS because they would conflict and cause issues. Odd then, that they didn't follow their own advice. Probably not related to the beeping sound, but I thought I'd throw it out as food for thought. I've not used a "G-Force" enabled Seagate drive, but perhaps beeping is indication of the technology?

If you're interested in SMS and how to check it's status and enable/disable it, read [this|http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1934?viewlocale=en_US].

Jun 25, 2009 8:59 AM in response to tomtubbs

Until they isolate the issue, I don't think swapping machines is going to make a difference unless you're going with a different HD than then 500 GB 7200 RPM.

Another poster reports happiness with his non-beeping 5400 RPM drive, but I can state from experience that the 5400 RPM drive is significantly slower and the performance difference is quite noticeable in real world use. Especially with apps like Aperture, Final Cut, and Photoshop. For now, I'll live with the beeps until they've identified the issue. I expect will see a firmware update in the not to distant future for the drive.

Jun 25, 2009 12:32 PM in response to wessto

yep just got off the phone with mac tech and mac sales they would replace it with a new one but Id have to send in the old one in and then wait until they got it then wait another week or two to get the new one. but, if people are having the same issue a now today with new ones whose to say the new one they ship me will have again the same issues too? Im ask apple why do we have to go threw 2-3 computers to get one that works!!!! I had the same problem 3 yrs. ago I had to return a total 3 mbp's to finally get one that work without any problems.... COME ON APPLE !!!! Start shipping quality controlled computers out and stop shipping this sh&)t out to us!!!!

Jun 25, 2009 6:44 PM in response to wessto

Just what everyone needs, another poster saying "me too!" -- but I can confirm that my computer is also 500GB/7200RPM, Summer '09. I'm glad I'm not alone.

I am inclined to believe it's related to the inertial-sensing head-parking feature for two reasons. I notice the noise mostly when I save a document, and I can sometimes hit cmd-S a little aggressively. However, I also noticed it while I was carrying my computer across the room tonight. I then discovered I can recreate the sound on demand by subjecting the computer to a modest jerking motion (nothing too violent). Can anyone else confirm this?

I would love a definitive answer from Apple, though. My old TiBook's 60GB hard drive ran 6 1/2 years without issue (and still works great), and I'd like to believe this new one won't crap out before 6 1/2 weeks are up. Has anyone's hard drive actually failed after making this noise?

Jun 25, 2009 7:17 PM in response to wessto

ehh... I guess it could be the HDD (like I said earlier, I feel 80% sure about this).
If it is the HDD Apple needs to fix this...

Some posters say that they hear the click-beep when they "move" the uMBP... however, I get the sound just sitting here on a stable-table...

This *****... wish Apple would acknowledge this already and issue a fix...

Jun 26, 2009 9:09 AM in response to ADKIM

I got some feedback from apple engineering regarding the hardware bug I posted. They said "This sounds a lot like a hardware failure. We strongly encourage you to take the computer to the nearest Apple retail store to visit a Genius Bar and have the problem diagnosed and fixed." I can't believe it. In response, I updated the bug to state that I had in fact taken it to the genius bar and they did not know what the problem was. I also referenced this thread and others so that hopefully they get the picture that a lot of us are affected. Anyone else have any updated status on getting this resolved? I ended up not doing anything with my computer at the Genius Bar because I can't give my computer up for 2-3 weeks while they replace it. I don't feel confident that replacing it with exactly the same specs will fix the problem.

Has anyone heard if this specific shock-protection drive is not playing nicely with apples built-in motion detection sensor? I know there has been some speculation to this but I've not heard if its confirmed or not. Lets keep this thread alive and hope to get some response from apple!

Hard drive click + beep

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