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Q: Firmware update and SATA II hard drive

Has anybody had any problems with new MacBook Pro after yesterday's firmware update with third party hard drive? I got a MacBook Pro 13" recently, swapped the 320 GB hard drive from my old MacBook. After reinstalling the OS for new hardware drivers, everything was working fine.

After the firmware update yesterday, the machine has started freezing randomly; the spinner comes up sometimes when reading or writing to the drive. The hard drive, a WD Scorpio Blue, supports SATA II. My suspicion is that there are intermittent data errors when using the SATA 3 Gbps interface. It could be an incompatibility between the controller and drive or the ribbon cable isn't good enough for newer SATA.

Does anybody know of a way to force the drive or the controller to use SATA 1.5 Gbps? Can I revert to the old firmware?

MacBook Pro 13", Mac OS X (10.5.7)

Posted on Jun 23, 2009 10:08 AM

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  • by Jerry H.,

    Jerry H. Jerry H. Oct 20, 2009 11:01 AM in response to IanBurrell
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    Oct 20, 2009 11:01 AM in response to IanBurrell
    what is the latest fw for intel ssd ?

    any change under SL ?

    thx
  • by theologos,

    theologos theologos Oct 20, 2009 2:21 PM in response to IanBurrell
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    Oct 20, 2009 2:21 PM in response to IanBurrell
    Hi all,
    I have a Macbook Pro 15" that came initially with a 250 MB HDD which I replaced with the Seagate 500 GB/7200 rpm and run into all the horrible problems that has been discussed so extensively.

    Obviously I had to downgrade to EFI 1.6 (SATA 1.5 Gbps) and since then the laptop has been working flawlessly and I was able to install via Boot Camp Windows 7, 64 bit edition, which is my main working OS.

    After reading some posts here that, after installing the Performance Update, users were able to upgrade again to EFI 1.7 without any issues, I decided to try it.

    Unfortunately no luck... As soon as EFI 1.7 was installed and the system restarted, problems started. Twice Windows or even OS X were not found and I was suggested to boot from a CD In another case Windows Blue-screened during the start-up, and, if I could login to OS X, I was getting all those horrible freezes.

    I reverted immediately back to EFI 1.6, and, that is the only way my system will work.

    So sad, as this is my second Macbook Pro and I run into all sorts of freezing problems with the 1st generation of the unibody 15", due to the known nVidia 9600m problems.

    It seems Apple cannot make a problem-free laptop since they moved to the unibody architecture and/or nvidia chipset platform...
  • by vudep,

    vudep vudep Oct 20, 2009 4:29 PM in response to IanBurrell
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    Oct 20, 2009 4:29 PM in response to IanBurrell
    the problems seem to be improved but not gone in my case. I applied the patch and re-upgraded to 1.7 a few days ago, so far I had one beachball about 10s while I was typing in Word and 1 more CRC error. I tried AJA (4GB) with 5 downloading connections, playing mkv file and playing a song in Itunes without any pause with AJA result write: 110mb, read: 205mb.
  • by Syydd81,

    Syydd81 Syydd81 Oct 20, 2009 7:44 PM in response to vudep
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    Oct 20, 2009 7:44 PM in response to vudep
    I'm having the same problem with my mid 2008 MacBook Pro. Apple in its divinity left us out. Grrr...
  • by kalvinhui,

    kalvinhui kalvinhui Oct 21, 2009 3:53 AM in response to Syydd81
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    Oct 21, 2009 3:53 AM in response to Syydd81
    has anyone tried the Erase&Install SL before you have updated the Firmware to EFI 1.7? some says it does resolve the problem of beachballing...
  • by fishbert,

    fishbert fishbert Oct 21, 2009 4:05 AM in response to kalvinhui
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    Oct 21, 2009 4:05 AM in response to kalvinhui
    kalvinhui wrote:
    has anyone tried the Erase&Install SL before you have updated the Firmware to EFI 1.7? some says it does resolve the problem of beachballing...

    http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=10433389#10433389
  • by Ella Price,

    Ella Price Ella Price Oct 21, 2009 6:57 AM in response to IanBurrell
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    Oct 21, 2009 6:57 AM in response to IanBurrell
    Until Apple comes out with a fix that allows me to boot off my Restore disks that came with my machine or a retail SL install DVD and install to my "3rd party" 500GB drive without issue, I will not consider this issue fixed. Same goes for my boot camp install. Everything works fine with 1.6 but if I update to 1.7 the performance update is not going to do me any good unless I can do what I mentioned above.

    My two cents.

    Cheers.
  • by MatrixMP,

    MatrixMP MatrixMP Oct 22, 2009 4:21 PM in response to theologos
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    Oct 22, 2009 4:21 PM in response to theologos
    PU1.0 correlatively applied in all of the hardware including nVidia GeForce 9400M. Dose the Beachballing is a problem of nvidia chipsets?
  • by Mellito,

    Mellito Mellito Oct 22, 2009 6:09 PM in response to IanBurrell
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    Oct 22, 2009 6:09 PM in response to IanBurrell
    Hello for everybody!

    Like a lot of people around the world, my MacBook Pro (late 2009) after *firmware update 1.7* with 3rth partie drive, just stop to work like a charm. Until the update, the firmware 1.6 works perfect!

    The effects after the update is the same of everyone: +can't boot, can't install the software e etc...+

    There is anybody out there, who knows if the *"performance Update 1.0"* solve this problem??? Or we have to wait a little longer???

    Thanks people!
    Regards.
  • by osxtasy,

    osxtasy osxtasy Oct 22, 2009 6:22 PM in response to fishbert
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    Oct 22, 2009 6:22 PM in response to fishbert
    Fishbert, not to sound like a troll, but could you please help me understand WHY you would kep a laptop PAST the 14 day return period, when it was not performing as expected. I respect you very much and your technical abilities, but I just don't get it. I've never been brand loyal I suppose, so PLEAS enlighten me accordingly...

    Thank-you
  • by fishbert,

    fishbert fishbert Oct 22, 2009 7:08 PM in response to osxtasy
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    Oct 22, 2009 7:08 PM in response to osxtasy
    osxtasy wrote:
    Fishbert, not to sound like a troll, but could you please help me understand WHY you would kep a laptop PAST the 14 day return period, when it was not performing as expected. I respect you very much and your technical abilities, but I just don't get it. I've never been brand loyal I suppose, so PLEAS enlighten me accordingly...

    Thank-you


    Sure.

    I bought a mid-2009 15" MacBook Pro soon after they were released (maybe even the same day) on June 8th. The problematic EFI 1.7 firmware update didn't come out until June 22nd. I didn't bother installing it (as I don't have a SSD) until sometime in early July, then it took a while for me to narrow down what the problem was (at first thought it was bad RAM or something) and to find this thread... my first post here being on July 11th (about how a jumper on the drive helped mitigate the problem for me -- this was pre-rollback tool).

    So, it was far too late for the 14 day return period... but even if it wasn't, I had hope at that time that Apple would release a fix in short order, so I probably would've held on to it anyway.

    Now, though, I wish I still had my 2008 unibody instead. I "upgraded" to this one due to the 8GB of RAM support... thought it would give a further obsolescence horizon. Silly me.
  • by Robert Gulyas,

    Robert Gulyas Robert Gulyas Oct 22, 2009 10:26 PM in response to theologos
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    Oct 22, 2009 10:26 PM in response to theologos
    theologos:

    I had the same issues as you did initially with the EFI 1.7 Firmware Update. I had to removed the Segae drive and reinstall the factory supplied 250 Hitachi HD.

    I was able to "Roll Back" fromEFI 1.7 to Firmware EFI 1.6. I installed the Seagate 3rd party drive 500 GB HD and it worked with EFI 1.6, and so did the Mac Book Pro.

    I the installed the "Performance Upgrade" 1.0. Then I installed the EFI 1.7 agin and now I am OK.

    Suggest you boot in Safe Mode first. Then run Repair Permission from Disk Utility. I Zaped the P-Ram as well.

    All work OK now.

    See my previous posts on this issue.

    bobg
  • by Robert Gulyas,

    Robert Gulyas Robert Gulyas Oct 22, 2009 10:33 PM in response to Mellito
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    Oct 22, 2009 10:33 PM in response to Mellito
    Mellto:

    See my post above.

    I did some house keeping first. I booted into "Safe Mode". Then ran Disk Utilities and "Repaired permissions". Then I Zapped the "PRAM".

    I installed the Perfromance Upgrade 1.0 and afterward installed the EFI 1.7 and the Mac Book Pro booted up properly for the first time with the larger Seagate 500 HD.

    All is OK for now!

    bobg
  • by a13xmh,

    a13xmh a13xmh Oct 22, 2009 10:49 PM in response to IanBurrell
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    Oct 22, 2009 10:49 PM in response to IanBurrell
    I have a macbook pro 5,5 13 , this is my first mac and im very disappointed , the beachball appears every second , is very unusable .
  • by fishbert,

    fishbert fishbert Oct 22, 2009 10:55 PM in response to a13xmh
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    Oct 22, 2009 10:55 PM in response to a13xmh
    a13xmh wrote:
    I have a macbook pro 5,5 13 , this is my first mac and im very disappointed , the beachball appears every second , is very unusable .


    Make an appointment with an Apple Store's Genius Bar, or call Apple phone support. They can usually help you find out what's wrong.
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