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Q: Firmware update and SATA II hard drive

Has anybody had any problems with new MacBook Pro after yesterday's firmware update with third party hard drive? I got a MacBook Pro 13" recently, swapped the 320 GB hard drive from my old MacBook. After reinstalling the OS for new hardware drivers, everything was working fine.

After the firmware update yesterday, the machine has started freezing randomly; the spinner comes up sometimes when reading or writing to the drive. The hard drive, a WD Scorpio Blue, supports SATA II. My suspicion is that there are intermittent data errors when using the SATA 3 Gbps interface. It could be an incompatibility between the controller and drive or the ribbon cable isn't good enough for newer SATA.

Does anybody know of a way to force the drive or the controller to use SATA 1.5 Gbps? Can I revert to the old firmware?

MacBook Pro 13", Mac OS X (10.5.7)

Posted on Jun 23, 2009 10:08 AM

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  • by fishbert,

    fishbert fishbert Aug 19, 2009 1:10 AM in response to pendolino
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    Aug 19, 2009 1:10 AM in response to pendolino
    pendolino wrote:
    can anyone let us know if they are getting the following message once or more in their console log (run the 'console' app) at or around the moment their system freezes?

    "kernel /drv/ MacAsyncDevice.cpp:229 Wait for hostwait_work_complete_asyncdevice (02:00) finished with timeout. "

    or this one

    "/usr/libexec/hidd[30] IOHIDEventQueueEnqueue: Error enqueuing memory. (0xe00002e8)"

    i've noticed at least one of these every time i have had the system lock up on me.


    You are probably experiencing a different issue.
    The EFI firmware 1.7 issue of this thread is not associated with any console messages.

    I'd suggest searching the forum for those messages, or making your own thread about it.
  • by Jon Hemmingsen,

    Jon Hemmingsen Jon Hemmingsen Aug 19, 2009 1:47 AM in response to IanBurrell
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    Aug 19, 2009 1:47 AM in response to IanBurrell
    MBP 13 (fw 1.7) & 3 dead Crucial 256 drives later. Well - chalk me up for yet another unhappy customer. I am an professional IT person who relies on the hardware every day. Apple has demonstrated their total incompetence when it comes to this segment. No acknowlegdement, no information for their own call center and no information to the outsourced repair shop all over the world. USB mounted it works fine - internally it just does not show up.
  • by blairmacintyre,

    blairmacintyre blairmacintyre Aug 19, 2009 3:18 AM in response to bliekp
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    Aug 19, 2009 3:18 AM in response to bliekp
    I want to second this; I have one of the new 13" MBPs, with the stock 500G drive. It's occasionally hung (more like 1 or 2 times per day than the high frequency reported here). Recently, however, it has begun hanging every few minutes! I have the 1.7 firmware, and I recently "bootcamped" it. But, aside from that, the machine is pretty standard. It's completely infuriating!
  • by johnbshk,

    johnbshk johnbshk Aug 19, 2009 3:37 AM in response to blairmacintyre
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    Aug 19, 2009 3:37 AM in response to blairmacintyre
    I took my 15 inch MBP into service in Hong Kong last week as my 3rd party 500GB Momentus 5400.6 drive stopped working properly after the 1.7 firmware update (i.e. the AJA diagnostics showed drive reading rates dropping down to zero).

    The tech staff told me they did not know about the firmware or the roll back but their diagnostics showed a motherboard failure, so they ordered a replacement.

    The new MB was installed and already had 1.7 installed, but works perfectly with my 500GB drive (i.e. AJA reading and writing of about 80MB/s)

    My conclusion is that the FW update exposed a hardware problem in some MB, rather than the FW being the problem itself.

    For anyone with the problem, I strongly recommend taking your MBP in for service ASAP with the 3rd party drive installed and let Apple fix the problem for you.

    Good luck!

    John
  • by Peter Di Arcangelo,

    Peter Di Arcangelo Peter Di Arcangelo Aug 19, 2009 7:55 AM in response to johnbshk
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    Aug 19, 2009 7:55 AM in response to johnbshk
    Sadly. the rollback disk Ella and fishbert have quoted doesnt work on my machine (somehow), so they genius has offered me an alternate route to fixing this, replacing the logicboard, he theorizes that the logicboard replacement will have an older version of the firmware on it.
  • by bobrudge,

    bobrudge bobrudge Aug 19, 2009 8:05 AM in response to IanBurrell
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    Aug 19, 2009 8:05 AM in response to IanBurrell
    I rang Apple today, explained the problem and pointed them in the direction of this thread. After a short wait they suggested a logic board replacement to rollback to the old firmware.

    I've left it at the shop and should have it back in a few days, hopefully fully working.
  • by bobrudge,

    bobrudge bobrudge Aug 19, 2009 3:49 PM in response to IanBurrell
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    Aug 19, 2009 3:49 PM in response to IanBurrell
    Does today's firmware update fix this?
  • by Ponzi,

    Ponzi Ponzi Aug 19, 2009 4:53 PM in response to bobrudge
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    Aug 19, 2009 4:53 PM in response to bobrudge
    Today's firmware update is related to a different issue. It does not fix this.
  • by katmeef,

    katmeef katmeef Aug 19, 2009 5:00 PM in response to Ponzi
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    Aug 19, 2009 5:00 PM in response to Ponzi
    Ponzi wrote:
    Today's firmware update is related to a different issue. It does not fix this.


    funny how the issue with all the third party web-news coverage gets resolved before our problem, eh..
  • by Aja B.,

    Aja B. Aja B. Aug 19, 2009 5:00 PM in response to Ponzi
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    Aug 19, 2009 5:00 PM in response to Ponzi
    Brand new 15" MBP, same problem with the intermittent 30 second "freezes". After reading almost all of this thread, it sounds like either rolling back to 1.6 or replacing the motherboard will fix the problem. We're heading out to the Genius Bar tonight to talk to them about it (already confirmed they have the rollback tool, yay), but we might want to just go ahead and replace the motherboard.

    Can those of you who've replaced the motherboard tell me how you convinced them to do it, and how long you were without the computer? This new computer is already a replacement machine after a 3 week delay in getting the last MBP fixed, and it's starting to get really difficult to get any work done. Ugh.
  • by fishbert,

    fishbert fishbert Aug 19, 2009 5:07 PM in response to Ponzi
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    Aug 19, 2009 5:07 PM in response to Ponzi
    Ponzi wrote:
    Today's firmware update is related to a different issue. It does not fix this.


    But has anyone tried it?

    Not to say I'm expecting it to fix our issue here, but we won't really know until someone tries it. (I plan to give it a shot when I get home... worst case, I have to roll the firmware back again and wait some more)

    Aja B. wrote:
    Brand new 15" MBP, same problem with the intermittent 30 second "freezes". After reading almost all of this thread, it sounds like either rolling back to 1.6 or replacing the motherboard will fix the problem. We're heading out to the Genius Bar tonight to talk to them about it (already confirmed they have the rollback tool, yay), but we might want to just go ahead and replace the motherboard.

    Can those of you who've replaced the motherboard tell me how you convinced them to do it, and how long you were without the computer? This new computer is already a replacement machine after a 3 week delay in getting the last MBP fixed, and it's starting to get really difficult to get any work done. Ugh.


    I don't think you'll be able to convince them to swap a logic board when the firmware rollback tool exists. And, I'm not sure why you'd want them to, either... more chances for damage whenever that cover comes off.
  • by Vitaeergo,

    Vitaeergo Vitaeergo Aug 19, 2009 5:13 PM in response to fishbert
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    Aug 19, 2009 5:13 PM in response to fishbert
    I downloaded today's update and it won't even run. I assume it detects if the hard drive is the specific seagate. Otherwise, it simply says "You do not need this update."

    BTW - to the prior question if an Intel X25 works with the update: A few have posted that they've had success, but I've put two separate X25's into my MBP (15") and they will not show at all. They'll work in any other machine, but this one after the firmware. Your experience may vary, but I'd be concerned before I'd drop the cash to put one in the MBP at the moment.
  • by skelm,

    skelm skelm Aug 19, 2009 6:32 PM in response to iyacyas
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    Aug 19, 2009 6:32 PM in response to iyacyas
    me 2, apple really needs to fix this
  • by Aja B.,

    Aja B. Aja B. Aug 19, 2009 8:49 PM in response to skelm
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    Aug 19, 2009 8:49 PM in response to skelm
    Ok, did the rollback at the store, hopefully that'll stop the freezing. Here's to v1.8 eventually! :P
  • by fishbert,

    fishbert fishbert Aug 19, 2009 9:06 PM in response to fishbert
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    Aug 19, 2009 9:06 PM in response to fishbert
    fishbert wrote:
    bobrudge wrote:
    Does today's firmware update fix this?

    Ponzi wrote:
    Today's firmware update is related to a different issue. It does not fix this.


    But has anyone tried it?

    Not to say I'm expecting it to fix our issue here, but we won't really know until someone tries it. (I plan to give it a shot when I get home... worst case, I have to roll the firmware back again and wait some more)


    Oh, I'm an idiot... today's release doesn't update the firmware on the logic board, but on the drive itself. So, it requires a specific hard drive.

    Yeah, completely not applicable.
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