Where's the Mellotron (in the studio, need one fast please.......)

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Where's the Mellotron (in the studio, need one fast please.......)

Is there no Mellotron in MainStage? I'm in the studio and REALLY hoping there's one in here. With everything else I'd be surprised, nay shocked. Maybe it's called something I can't decipher? I've searched Logic hoping to find the corresponding name, searched Tron and Mello and Mellotron etc. Any help would be appreciated, and any fast help one way or the other would be really valuable, thx. I could go out to the car drag in my MotifES and get it hooked up but I'd rather get the full sound of MainStage....

thx
Neil

iMac 24", PowerBook G4, iMac 22", Mac OS X (10.5.6), Logic 8 Studio, Digital Performer, Apogee Duet, Nord, Motif, more++

Posted on Jun 25, 2009 12:35 PM

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Answer 1

Caramby

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Jun 25, 2009 3:13 PM in response to NMcQ

If it's any consolation, I can't find it in the +Logic Pro 8 User Manual+ or in the +Logic Studio Instruments & Effects+ manual either.

Searched through every Instrument I could find, in the Library, in EXS24, & in the finder.

Even tried with one "L".

Isn't it a registered trademark?

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Answer 2

valgreen

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Jun 26, 2009 1:53 AM in response to NMcQ

No, there is no mellotron in Logic or Mainstage, and no need for it.

what you need is a mellotron sample library to load on EXS24; i found many free samples os strings, choirs, flutes with its original "flavour" and noise.

another option would M-audio's M-Tron AU plug-in, but, again, its the library what really matters, not the plugin itself (m-tron emulation sounds cool, but only has the original hardware controls for speed and not much more, exs24 is better).

hope it helps

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Answer 3

Caramby

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Jun 26, 2009 4:55 AM in response to valgreen

Since a Mellotron comes with tape loops for samples, you might need a very big, or more than one, plug-in to include all the various tape sets. It would be practically a sample Library in its own right.

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Answer 4

Jun 26, 2009 6:29 AM in response to Caramby

http://www.gforcesoftware.com/ins_mtronpro.php

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Answer 5

Jun 26, 2009 9:43 AM in response to NMcQ

Free Mello Strings, Flutes, Choir:

http://tinpan.fortunecity.com/aphex/113/index.html

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Caramby

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Jun 26, 2009 10:20 AM in response to John Alcock

Worst Web Design Awards 2009!

( Apparently not updated since 2005, though. I was visitor number "?" )

🙂

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Answer 7

NMcQ Author

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Jun 26, 2009 1:33 PM in response to John Alcock

Thank you all, you answered my question by letting me know there was no "answer" in MainStage or Logic. Quite the omission IMO. Lots of other companies call it "tron" or "tapey" or that type of thing to get around trademark. Anyway I ended firing up my Yamaha Motif ES rack and using a Mellotron that came with a third-party sound library called "Vintage Keys" which is quite excellent. Yes being a rompler it's not as good as a sample or model would be but it's a Mellotron, and the producer was estatic, so that's good for me. Thanks again,

Neil

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rdellapi

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Jun 26, 2009 1:41 PM in response to NMcQ

I wouldn't be so hard on Logic or Mainstage. Neither one is meant to be an all-inclusive source of sounds. Especially Mainstage, which is meant to make it easier to use the sounds you already have in a live situation. Calling it a big omission is going too far. And even if Logic and Mainstage had a Mellotron in it, it would be unreasonable to expect it to be at the level of quality of something like MTron, which specializes in reproducing the Mellotron sound (very well IMO).

Sorry...I just love Logic and Mainstage and even though there are plenty of problems with Mainstage to complain about, it's not fair to criticize it for not being something that it isn't trying to be.

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Caramby

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Jun 26, 2009 3:55 PM in response to rdellapi

I agree. It's astonishing how much free stuff you get with Logic Studio (which costs peanuts anyway). It would be great value if it had no sounds included at all.

People seem to think that however much value you give them, they deserve more.

I wouldn't consider the fact that Logic doesn't come with sapphires & rubies a serious omission…

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Answer 10

NMcQ Author

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Jun 27, 2009 4:56 PM in response to rdellapi

Point taken and yes perhaps my wording was too extreme. I guess it was a backhanded compliment; Logic and MainStage has so so so so much stuff, astonishingly so, and is so so crazy-excellent, that it surprised me that a Mellotron wasn't in there. Meaning that I'm so used to being overwhelmed by how much stuff they crammed in that I'm a bit spoiled. My bad. I do a lot of prog work so the Mellotron is up there with the Hammond in terms of wants, so my perspective may be a bit warped from others. So I'm not coming from that "I want everything and then some for under $500", quite the opposite, and Logic continues to amaze me. Don't know if I'm explaining my goofy logic (no pun) well or not, hope so.

I do keyboards work in LA studios and it's so cool, being a total MacNut, to see so many people moving to Logic Studio/Logic Pro, people who in the past dismissed the old Logics as a "prosumer" at best and actually they used to refer to it more like a Garage Band. I'm not saying they were right or wrong, I don't know because I was on Digital Performer until last year, I'm just reporting my experience. These are studio pros I'm talking about here. Now they're abandoning their precious ProTools and Digital Performer (my go-to DAW for 25 years) for Logic Pro. Just a couple weeks ago an engineer said something about using that Logic8 sound for a synthvox thing, and gee maybe I could play it out of MainStage for him... That NEVER would have happened 5 years ago, NEVER.

LOL

Neil

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Answer 11

Caramby

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Jun 28, 2009 7:47 AM in response to NMcQ

🙂

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Answer 12

gilapuki

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Jun 29, 2009 3:13 AM in response to NMcQ

NMcQ wrote:Just a couple weeks ago an engineer said something about using that Logic8 sound for a synthvox thing, and gee maybe I could play it out of MainStage for him... That NEVER would have happened 5 years ago, NEVER.

LOL

Neil

You're right. MainStage wasn't around five years ago. 🙂

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Answer 13

NMcQ Author

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Jun 29, 2009 12:02 PM in response to gilapuki

Ha, so true. The point was that any mention of Logic in any way (including subsidiary apps) would not have been made 5 years ago in some of the studios I work in, now it's getting close to being a standard because so many people are using it because it packs so much into the package. Just interesting to watch the morph.

Neil

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