iChat AV 3 works for me
Hi 3 Chatters --
I decided to post this in the clear rather than posting it separately to several of you who are reporting problems others have reported to me in several (approximately 10) multi-party test chats in which I have participated since installing Tiger on Friday evening. I plan to update it below as merited.
Day 1: By Saturday evening I had learned the following:
1) I have now connected with a G4 and BOTH of us were getting 30 fps. Unable to determine why this ONE is faster than the 15 fps numbers I was getting immediately after upgrading to Tiger, but 30 fps is not NOW limited to G5s with me.
2) Have now connected with a G4 experiencing low (1 fps) frame rates and low bandwidth (15 Kbps). Turning off Virex helped, but still left numbers of 1 fps and 30 Kbps. Permissions Repair, Reinstall Tiger by Archive & Install, and another Permission Repair FIXED the problem. 20 fps and 350 Kbps with me now.
3) My QuickTime Streaming speed was unchanged by the update, and has not posed a problem for my end.
4) Have now tested with multiple party videos and conclude that, at my available bandwidth, approximately 450 Kbps as reported by Connection Doctor, adding the 4th party degrades video quality (fuzzy) more than adding numbers 2 and 3.However, all participants in the multi-party conferences agree it is a WOW !
5) Have chatted with two buddies who did permissions repair, updated, and then repaired permissions again. Both said the upgrade went smoothly.
6) Have chatted with several who had problems getting iChat AV 3 going after using the standard "Update" method to install Tiger without any additional OS X maintenance. Some got going again by doing Permissions Repair after iChat AV 3 failed to launch or connect. Others had to repair permissions, reinstall Tiger using A & I and then repair permissions again to get it working. I do not know whether anything less labor intensive would have corrected, but that seems to have done the trick for those with whom I have chatted.
I used the following method.
a) Backed up my data (on my Panther 10.3.9 Mac)
b) Repaired Permissions
c) Repaired the Hard Disk
d) Forced the Chrons
e) Repaired Permissions
f) Inserted the Tiger DVD and used the standard, easy, fast, 2-Step Upgrade
g) Repaired permissions
h) Restarted my Mac
i) Launched iChat AV 3 and it worked.
Connection Doctor frame and bit rates are still somewhat slower for me than the were in 2.1, but I am getting better rates today than I got when I first upgraded last night. Unexplained as to why.
I later found that I had to reinstall my printer drivers, but iChat AV 3 worked from the beginning.
From the above, I conclude that one should perform OS X maintenance and repair permissions
b before AND after
using the "Update" method to install Tiger. If you do not want to do those steps, I suggest the A & I method instead of Update.
I decided to post this in the clear rather than posting it separately to several of you who are reporting problems others have reported to me in several (approximately 10) multi-party test chats in which I have participated since installing Tiger on Friday evening. I plan to update it below as merited.
Day 1: By Saturday evening I had learned the following:
1) I have now connected with a G4 and BOTH of us were getting 30 fps. Unable to determine why this ONE is faster than the 15 fps numbers I was getting immediately after upgrading to Tiger, but 30 fps is not NOW limited to G5s with me.
2) Have now connected with a G4 experiencing low (1 fps) frame rates and low bandwidth (15 Kbps). Turning off Virex helped, but still left numbers of 1 fps and 30 Kbps. Permissions Repair, Reinstall Tiger by Archive & Install, and another Permission Repair FIXED the problem. 20 fps and 350 Kbps with me now.
3) My QuickTime Streaming speed was unchanged by the update, and has not posed a problem for my end.
4) Have now tested with multiple party videos and conclude that, at my available bandwidth, approximately 450 Kbps as reported by Connection Doctor, adding the 4th party degrades video quality (fuzzy) more than adding numbers 2 and 3.However, all participants in the multi-party conferences agree it is a WOW !
5) Have chatted with two buddies who did permissions repair, updated, and then repaired permissions again. Both said the upgrade went smoothly.
6) Have chatted with several who had problems getting iChat AV 3 going after using the standard "Update" method to install Tiger without any additional OS X maintenance. Some got going again by doing Permissions Repair after iChat AV 3 failed to launch or connect. Others had to repair permissions, reinstall Tiger using A & I and then repair permissions again to get it working. I do not know whether anything less labor intensive would have corrected, but that seems to have done the trick for those with whom I have chatted.
I used the following method.
a) Backed up my data (on my Panther 10.3.9 Mac)
b) Repaired Permissions
c) Repaired the Hard Disk
d) Forced the Chrons
e) Repaired Permissions
f) Inserted the Tiger DVD and used the standard, easy, fast, 2-Step Upgrade
g) Repaired permissions
h) Restarted my Mac
i) Launched iChat AV 3 and it worked.
Connection Doctor frame and bit rates are still somewhat slower for me than the were in 2.1, but I am getting better rates today than I got when I first upgraded last night. Unexplained as to why.
I later found that I had to reinstall my printer drivers, but iChat AV 3 worked from the beginning.
From the above, I conclude that one should perform OS X maintenance and repair permissions
b before AND after
using the "Update" method to install Tiger. If you do not want to do those steps, I suggest the A & I method instead of Update.
