GMA X3100 Driver!!!

Hello everybody. Sorry for my english but i'm italian.
Will Apple never release a decent driver for the gma x3100? From mac os x 10.5.2 they never update the driver i think. This video card go really bad. Expose and the other 2 animation go extremely slow and at low fps. I have a macmin with a video card with 32mb and the animation here go very very better than the macbook with the gma x3100. I also tried to install windows via bootcamp and intel release a driver update for this video card on march 2009 and under windows the gmax3100 is extremely better than under mac os x! I can play game with no problem. Is it possible that apple dosen't know that the leopard driver for this card thay have problems? I can't believe that i have spent 1300$ for a computer that it does not succeed to manage the animations neither 2d?

Macbook 13 2.4 (2008) GMA X3100, Mac OS X (10.5.7)

Posted on Jul 7, 2009 1:53 AM

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Jul 7, 2009 7:28 AM in response to bentek86

if there are updates to the video drivers, they are usually released with the 10.5.x updates. if you are still running 10.5.2, this could be part of the problem.

Make sure you have current backups of ALL data before trying anything. Not sure what all you do with your system, but running some maintainence such as repair permissions & disk repair, finish off by installing the 10.5.7 combo update + any others that show up via Software Update.

How to - Disk Repair & permissions: http://kb.wisc.edu/helpdesk/page.php?id=3810
10.5.7 combo update: http://support.apple.com/downloads/MacOS_X_10_5_7_ComboUpdate

Jul 8, 2009 7:15 AM in response to kmac1036

i report a discussion from another user:

gmax3100 have a POOR opengl performance under Mac Osx Leopard in 2d. It is NOT my problem but it is a known problem. Try to run some benchmark with gma950 and gma x3100.

Macbook c2d 2.2 opengl performance x3100: 23.28
MacMini cd 1.6 opengl performance gma950: 184.76

it is a know problem:

http://lists.apple.com/archives/mac-opengl/2008/Jan/msg00025.html
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=446938
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=448571
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=403685

ecc.
exposè make 40fps and it is NOT fluid like a nvidia or ati card. Exposè is a simple animation, under arch linux and geforce3 (2001) is more more fluid respect leopard... and respect to tiger.

with this hack:
sudo defaults write /Library/Preferences/com.apple.windowserver Compositor -dict deferredUpdates 0

exposè is much MORE fluid so it is a driver problem (because with tiger there's no problem!!)
I have NO problem with my macbook.

Jul 7, 2009 9:56 AM in response to kmac1036

no, i don't have the 10.5.2 version. I have the 10.5.7 completely up to date. I intended to say that from the 10.5.2 the driver are not improved. under windows and ubuntu this video card is excellent. under mac os x is really really bad and i can't believe that apple dosen't do nothing for for we that we have bought this disgusting model

Jul 7, 2009 11:09 AM in response to kmac1036

i reinstall the system many times and also change the mainboard but at the end the problem is not the video card, is the driver of leopard! I have bought macbook the past year therefore I cannot be afforded to change it!
How do you can say that yours is ok? all people that have this video card knows that the leopard driver have problem. Some people find a terminal command that deactive windowsserver isync and the 2d animation goese better but is incredible that one person that buy a 1200$'s macbook it must insert terminal commands in order to make to work a video card well. Is amazing! I have a macmini and an imac also. i am a satisfied mac user from many years but this time with this macbook apple it is disappointing to me. Or maybe are an intel problem tthat it does not make driver for mac but it makes them only for windows and linux.

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Jul 7, 2009 2:04 PM in response to kmac1036

the problem is that the expose, or the spaces or the minimize, or the dock scrolling is not fluid. I have 4 gb of ram installed. but i have the macbook (early 2008). are you sure that you have the macbok with the gmax3100 and not the one with the gma 950? i can show you only italian forums where this discussion appear... but if you serach you can find that all people that have the gma x3100 know that the leopard driver not goes well...i have an hold mac mini with 32 mb video card that go extremely better than this macbook with 128 mb. is not a problem at the end but it is very annoying

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Jul 7, 2009 2:24 PM in response to bentek86

I have the GMA X3100 graphics chipset in my MacBook (Late 2007). I don't have the problems you're talking about. Expose and dock scrolling are plenty smooth for me. My computer has 1GB of RAM.

As kmac1036 suggested, I think you should try doing some maintenance on your machine.

Did Apple upgrade the RAM to 4GB for you or did you do that yourself after purchase? If you upgraded yourself, do you still have the old modules? Try running the computer with the old modules to see if performance improves.

~Lyssa

Jul 8, 2009 12:36 AM in response to Lyssa

You can do a beanchmark with "xbench" and check the you can see that the previous video card (the intel gma 950 with 64 mb) go up to 150 fps. This video card at max go to 25 fps. When i minimize or when i scrool the dock i saw clearly that is not fluid. i can't understand how you can't see it. i came from an imac with an ati 128 mb and i see the difference clearly.

Jul 8, 2009 3:16 PM in response to bentek86

My results aren't any better than yours... but comparing to the results on my MBP with the 9600M (crappy compared to an x1600 in an iMac from 2006!!!!), I'm leaning towards the Open GL implementation in OSX. the OS itself doesn't use it in the GUI, as it's Aqua / Quartz. It seems like the ATI cards do really well, even the old ones, at getting really good GL benches.


Results 75.45
System Info
Xbench Version 1.3
System Version 10.5.6 (9G2030)
Physical RAM 1024 MB
Model MacBook3,1
Drive Type FUJITSU MHZ2120BH G1
CPU Test 137.08
GCD Loop 256.45 13.52 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic 123.43 2.93 Gflop/sec
vecLib FFT 101.23 3.34 Gflop/sec
Floating Point Library 136.98 23.85 Mops/sec
Thread Test 205.10
Computation 194.57 3.94 Mops/sec, 4 threads
Lock Contention 216.84 9.33 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads
Memory Test 148.97
System 156.11
Allocate 211.57 776.95 Kalloc/sec
Fill 133.71 6501.25 MB/sec
Copy 142.63 2945.94 MB/sec
Stream 142.45
Copy 134.61 2780.39 MB/sec
Scale 135.71 2803.80 MB/sec
Add 150.23 3200.23 MB/sec
Triad 150.90 3228.15 MB/sec
Quartz Graphics Test 173.73
Line 160.43 10.68 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 205.57 61.37 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 165.51 13.49 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 163.77 4.13 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 180.66 11.30 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 22.86
Spinning Squares 22.86 28.99 frames/sec
User Interface Test 292.50
Elements 292.50 1.34 Krefresh/sec
Disk Test 47.70
Sequential 64.51
Uncached Write 86.51 53.11 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 84.77 47.96 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 34.95 10.23 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 99.67 50.09 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 37.84
Uncached Write 14.28 1.51 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 88.11 28.21 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 67.53 0.48 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 104.75 19.44 MB/sec [256K blocks]

Aug 6, 2009 6:27 AM in response to Chris.by

Chris.by wrote:
The Apple drivers for the GMA X3100 don't provide the same features and performance as the windows drivers. E.g., they only support OpenGL 1.2, while in Vista it's OpenGL 2.0 and XP at least OpenGL 1.4. AFAIR, there were also performance issues which got better with 10.5.2, but it's still not on par with the windows drivers.


It's funny though, because I just ran the OpenGL Extensions Viewer from Realtech-VR under 10.5.8 with my GMA X3100 Macbook. On the OpenGL page of the program, it reads out which features are supported by the Apple OpenGL Driver for GMA X3100:

OpenGL 1.1 (100% - 7/7)
OpenGL 1.2 (100% - 8/8)
OpenGL 1.3 (88% - 8/9)
OpenGL 1.4 (93% - 14/15)
OpenGL 1.5 (100% - 3/3)
OpenGL 2.0 (100% - 10/10)
OpenGL 2.1 (100% - 3/3)
OpenGL 3.0 (24% - 6/25)
OpenGL 3.1 (14% - 1/7)

I'm not sure it can be read that way, but it looks like only *two functions are missing for full OpenGL 2.1 support*, namely GL ARBmultisample and GL ARB_pointparameters. The program even runs 2.1 tests perfectly, but some programs won't launch because they require 1.3 or higher.

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