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  • John Hixson Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Well, OK, partial success anyway! I went back and tried Atchisan's instructions of 12/28 on this forum topic. (Except where he says to "Set Defaults" after entering the 16/600 IP address I want, if I did that the address went back to 0.0.0.0; so I did not use the "Set Defaults" button but used the "Update Info" button instead. The printer seemed to retain its manually assigned address 192.168.2.150.
    thereafter.) After finishing this I was able to add the printer to my 10.6.2 MBP using LPD protocol, 192.168.2.150 address, a better than default name, and its own unique driver. However, it still would not print a test doc, giving me a perpetual "printer is busy" error message instead.

    So I poked around for a while until I discovered by accident (in the Apple Printer Utility of OS 9 thanks to an old 7600 I've still got) that the 16/600 has to have its ethernet port TCP/IP mode "turned on" and that there is a small switch on its back panel that's involved in this process. Anyway after I got that straightened out, I was able to print again from Snow Leopard.

    With regard to pinging the 16/600 now shows up just as you suggested. It did not before, nor would I have expected it to as the address I found on it before changing was 0.0.0.0.

    Thanks for the help. John Hixson
  • John Galt Level 8 Level 8 (41,440 points)
    Grant, while I'm awaiting the results of Jason's external print server above, would you care to speculate if such a device would work? I'm contemplating using an HP JetDirect print server, which I could probably buy used for ten bucks or so, with my Laserjet 4MP's parallel interface. I would have to instruct the 4MP to use the parallel interface of course.

    This would still leave my bulletproof Localtalk-equipped Imagewriter II without support, but it's just a matter of time before I'll have to succumb to Snow Leopard's demands.

    Of course, "matter of time" could mean "in a few more years" in my case...
  • Grant Bennet-Alder Level 9 Level 9 (53,090 points)
    I'm contemplating using an HP JetDirect print server...
    ... would you care to speculate if such a device would work?


    I expect it would, as long as the Ethernet side supports a protocol like LPR or IPP to print over Ethernet.
  • Long time Mac fan Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    I just wanted to report back. It's been a while. Getting my Snow Leopard iMac to print to either of my old Apple printers was pretty frustrating.

    - Through the help of Grant Bennet-Alder and othes, I realized that the IP method would not work for the LW 630. That is a secondary printer so I put that issue aside. Don't know if I will even pursue that fix.

    - At first, I also failed to get my LW 8500 printing via IP. My router was ancient and needed replacing anyway so I decided to wait until I could upgrade that first. In the meantime, I have a G4 running Tiger and we were just printing everything from there.

    - Anyway, today, I spent some time reading up on the links I had saved. I don't really understand this network stuff but I now have an Airport Extreme Base Station, so I just cranked up Classic on the G4 and set the 8500's IP to "10.0.1.150" per this article:

    http://theappleblog.com/2009/09/04/how-to-resurrect-your-appletalk-printer-in-sn ow-leopard/

    Printing from Quark, I had some additional hurdles which involved selecting a PPD folder via the Utilities menu, but once I got past that hurdle, sweet success! The 8500 is a real work horse so this is really great news.

    I'll have to see how it goes but so far, looks pretty good. Prints just as fast as AppleTalk and I don't notice and difference in fonts or graphics. Take it from me, if I can do it, anyone can. But truthfully, I wish they had just left things the way they were. Who need all this just to restore original functionality? Oh well! I guess there must be some technical reason why we have to suffer.

    THANKS A BUNCH!!!
  • Helmut Kaleth Level 2 Level 2 (235 points)
    Congratulations ! You made it, but don`t give up with your LW630. All you need is a small print server like the D-Link DP301P+ for example. I got mine working just fine. I know you can`t give the 630 an IP, but the print server has one and will get the LW to work just fine.

    hwk
  • Long time Mac fan Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Helmut,

    I am not sure we need to do that for our purposes. The 8500 is the workhorse. Now, we can print to the 8500 over the network from both the new iMac and G4. The G4 (runs Tiger) can print to both the 8500 and the 630 but the iMac only to the 8500 via IP. That's good enough for what we need. But thanks for the advice. It's good to know that there is a solution if that becomes a necessity.
  • Jason West1 Level 1 Level 1 (40 points)
    Finally following up on the external print server solution. While I have not performed any actual tests the print server appears to work better than the USB / Parallel cable I had but doesn't seem to work quite as well as my original (pre-Snow Leopard) setup. It has not timed out as the cable did but it does seem to take a little longer with some jobs than I would expect, or that I recall the Asante set up did. Could just be my memory. I was hopeful the print server would be quicker than the original set up but probably the same or a little slower. No complaints.

    I purchased an HP JetDirect EX Plus J2591A external print server online for about $13. Since I no longer had any parallel cables laying around I also bought the specified HP parallel cable to run between the print server and the HP 5MP printer ($9).

    My set up is Mac to Airport Extreme via Ethernet - Airport Extreme to HP JetDirect print server via Ethernet and HP JetDirect print server via HP parallel cable.

    Overall I'm satisfied with the solution. At a cost of $22 (plus shipping) it sure beats buying a new printer.
  • John Galt Level 8 Level 8 (41,440 points)
    Thanks for the update Jason.

    Did you have to make any printer-specific setting changes? In other words, was it necessary to instruct it to use its parallel port instead of whatever you were using before?

    I'm slowly headed toward upgrading my systems but making my printers work is a prerequisite.
  • Jason West1 Level 1 Level 1 (40 points)
    I don't recall the set up being a significant issue. With the USB to Parallel cable it was fairly simple and with the JetDirect print server it was also fairly simple.

    It runs through my Airport (which is not necessary - you could easily just plug into the ethernet port). After I hooked up the print server to both the printer and Airport I followed the instructions included with the JetDirect. Sorry, I don't recall the exact steps, but the whole process took maybe 15 minutes.

    There were not specific things I had to instruct either the printer or print server to do. Just added it to the Airport printers and downloaded the latest drivers.

    I can try to provide more specific info if it would help.
  • John Galt Level 8 Level 8 (41,440 points)
    Sound good Jason!

    I may invest ten or fifteen bucks in a JetDirect server, and a Centronics cable I've had lying around for decades to see if this works with my HP LaserJet 4MP.

    I'll probably still be out of luck with my Localtalk-equipped Imagewriter II, though. I still use it for printing multipart FedEx waybills.
  • Thomas O'Keefe Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
    After reading through this thread I was able to get my HP LaserJet 6MP working with my new Mac Mini running 10.6.2. My HP has the following connection options: LocalTalk, IEEE ECP 1284C, and IEEE ECP 1284B. I have an old Asante LocalTalk to Ethernet box I was using but could not get that to work--I tried various options with LPD although I was not clear if that would work with this box or if you need to have an actual ethernet plug on the printer. I found the LocalTalk Node and LocalTalkNetwork ID for the printer but none of the addresses I tried worked--I tried various other suggestions on here for coming up with the right IP address but I just have a home office and vary basic understanding of configuring networks. Finally I decided to order a parallel to USB cable for the ECP 1284C parallel port. This was confusing because on the specs for the available ones I could find none of them explicitly stated that they worked with Mac OS. I went with a suggestion of someone else on this thread and ordered the Belkin USB to Parallel Port Adapter Part# F5U002v1. I plugged it in and added the printer via the USB option and am now happily printing with OS 10.6 and my old--and fully functional--HP LaserJet.
  • wtfisk Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Thank you very much, Ed Harson! This works like a charm with my LW Select 360! And only cost me for the Centronic's Cable USB-to-USB extension cable from Cables to go! Incredible! And none of the Apple Techies knew of this! You are really a big help!!!
    ~Wayne
  • wtfisk Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Correction: It's Monoprice.com Not Cables to go!
    #1610 USB to Parallel(CN36 Male / IEEE1284) Converter Cable - 6ft
    #5433 USB 2.0 A Male to A Female Extension 28/24AWG Cable -(Gold Plated) -6ft
  • Peter Payne Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
    No love for the Applewriter 4/600, anyone? Doesn't have a Parallel.
  • Grant Bennet-Alder Level 9 Level 9 (53,090 points)
    I love the LaserWriter 4/600 PS. But you will need to keep a Mac with 10.5 or earlier on it to continue printing. Peggy, queen of the AppleWorks forum, uses an old Mac Mini dedicated to Sharing her old Printer.