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Olympus E-P1 RAW support?

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ghan51 Calculating status...
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Jul 19, 2009 6:38 PM
Anybody have any idea how long it will take to get RAW support for the Olympus E-P1?
MacG5; MacBookPro Intel; Silver iPod Classic 160 gb, Mac OS X (10.4.10)
  • Allan Eckert Level 8 Level 8 (39,420 points)
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    Jul 19, 2009 10:05 PM (in response to ghan51)
    Hi ghan51;

    You are talking to other users like yourself here. No one here has the slightest idea when Apple will come out with anything.

    Allan
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  • Jon Ward1 Calculating status...
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    Jul 20, 2009 11:18 AM (in response to Allan Eckert)
    Thanks for that helpful comment Allan.

    I expect it will be a while for Aperture to get Raw support. You can hack Capture One to read E-P1 raw files but at the moment that's the only alternative to the Olympus software, sadly.
  • Clem Level 3 Level 3 (550 points)
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    Jul 20, 2009 1:19 PM (in response to ghan51)
    If its supported by Adobe in Camera Raw then you can make dngs out of them and import to Aperture.
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  • Andreas Yankopolus Level 2 Level 2 (410 points)
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    Jul 21, 2009 5:23 PM (in response to Clem)
    Or shoot JPEG and don't worry about compatibility issues. I shot an Olympus E-3 for quite a while and was very impressed with the quality of the JPEGs it produced. This is even more true with my D700. In fact, Nikon's JPEGs look better than Aperture's conversions of my NEFs unless I do a bunch of tinkering. The only losses I see are highlight/shadow recovery and gross white balance corrections.

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  • Carl Jabido Level 3 Level 3 (500 points)
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    Jul 24, 2009 9:36 PM (in response to ghan51)
    I'm gonna guess and say we won't see it till the next version. It doesn't look like any of the Micro 4/3s cameras are supported. I suspect it has something to do with RAW files that also include things like distortion correction. For example the LX3 is infamous for this and Aperture doesn't support that either.

    I've been tempted by Lightroom which I'm guessing will probably support it soon. But for now, if you must shoot RAW, Raw Photo Processor is donation ware and supports the E-P1.
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  • Andreas Yankopolus Level 2 Level 2 (410 points)
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    Jul 25, 2009 6:57 AM (in response to Carl Jabido)
    I'll second the recommendation for RPP and find that its raw conversions spank Aperture's for detail, highlight & shadow recovery, and default tone curve. Of course, Aperture wins hands down on workflow.

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  • Jon Ward1 Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
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    Jul 25, 2009 9:52 AM (in response to ghan51)
    I've found that you can change E-P1 files so that Aperture will import them. Make backups of your files first, obviously.

    Get hold of Hex Fiend (I'm a sucker for a silly name) http://ridiculousfish.com/hexfiend/
    In Hex Fiend open the E-P1 .ORF file you want to import
    Hit Apple-F or Find... from the edit menu
    In the top box put E-P1 (make sure the ASCII box not the Hex box is checked)
    In the bottom box put E-30 (again, make sure the ASCII box not the Hex box is checked)
    Press Next then press Replace, there's only one string that needs changing.
    Close the search box.
    Hit Apple-S or Save... from the file menu.
    Voila. You can now import that raw file into Aperture.

    Obviously that's not very useful because you don't want to be going through that rigmarole with loads of images. But at least it means you can compare the Aperture Raw conversion with other options. <Edited by Host>
  • Carl Jabido Level 3 Level 3 (500 points)
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    Jul 25, 2009 9:49 AM (in response to Jon Ward1)
    Nice find. I wonder if there are any AppleScriptable hex editors. Then a simple script could be added into workflows.

    I've heard the 17mm lens does have some barrel correction applied to it by Olympus Master or the in-camera JPEGs so that's something to look out for if you've got the 17.

    For now, I'm still working in Aperture, but using Raw+LSF jpgs. If I find an image that could use some RAW work, I'll switch over to RPP for that and bring it back into Aperture.
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  • Leigh Snell Calculating status...
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    Jul 27, 2009 6:25 PM (in response to ghan51)
    I too am looking for EP-1 Raw support (just about to purchase one). Jon's suggestion makes sense as I understand that the E-620 / E-30 & the EP-1 all use the same sensor. Although if that's the case why doesn't Apple simply release support for all 3 if it works for the E-30? BTW..I didn't see the E-30 on the supported list for Aperture.

    Leigh
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  • Leigh Snell Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
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    Jul 27, 2009 6:35 PM (in response to ghan51)
    Additional to above -
    www.apple.com/au/aperture/specs/raw.html - doesn't list the E-30 as supported, but www.apple.com/aperture/spec/raw.html does list it as supported.
    Goes to show that Australia may be 10 hours ahead of the US, but we're several years behind!!!

    Leigh
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  • Carl Jabido Level 3 Level 3 (500 points)
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    Jul 27, 2009 7:13 PM (in response to Leigh Snell)
    Same sensor but Micro 4/3rds lenses require some distortion correction. The bodies do the correction for in-body JPGs and apps like Olympus Master do it when it's a RAW file. Adobe Lightroom does it for the G1 RAW files also. That's why I'm guessing Lightroom will support the E-P1 much sooner than Aperture.

    This is all conjecture of course, but it seems like Aperture does not support these corrections yet.
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  • cawins Calculating status...
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    Aug 20, 2009 8:22 AM (in response to ghan51)
    OK, I just bought an E-P1 yesterday and am really frustrated with the RAW support. Does anyone have any news?
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  • davidcharlec Calculating status...
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    Aug 20, 2009 9:20 AM (in response to cawins)
    I converted the RAW images from my Olympus E-P1 to DNG files using the new Adobe DNG converter 5.5 RC with was released yesterday.
    I used 2 lenses on my camera : the kit lens (a 14-42mm zoom) and a Voigtlander manual lens.
    All photos taken with the kit lens were rejected by Aperture in the import process.
    I was only able to import the DNG files taken with the Voigtlander lens.
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