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Install 10.4 Tiger using external USB DVD drive?

Hi, I've got an iBook G3 500MHz with a CD-ROM drive, and all I can find for Tiger install discs online (without having yet called Apple to see if I can buy it) are DVDs.

My question is: can I install Tiger through using an external USB DVD drive?

Thanks in advance!

iBook G3 500MHz, Mac OS X (10.3.x), CD-ROM

Posted on Jul 26, 2009 1:26 PM

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Posted on Jul 26, 2009 1:36 PM

Hi Andy, and a warm welcome to the forums! 🙂

Not likely, as 99.999% of PPC Macs cannot boot OSX from a USB drive. Does it have Firewire also?

Might test yours by putting your Panther/10.3.x Install Disc in, reboot, hold the Option key down, see if the USB Drive is a Boot Option & acxctually does boot to the Panther installer.

Also, see if your iBook has or needs a Firmware update...

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1395?viewlocale=en_US
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Jul 26, 2009 1:36 PM in response to AndyC.

Hi Andy, and a warm welcome to the forums! 🙂

Not likely, as 99.999% of PPC Macs cannot boot OSX from a USB drive. Does it have Firewire also?

Might test yours by putting your Panther/10.3.x Install Disc in, reboot, hold the Option key down, see if the USB Drive is a Boot Option & acxctually does boot to the Panther installer.

Also, see if your iBook has or needs a Firmware update...

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1395?viewlocale=en_US

Jul 26, 2009 1:50 PM in response to BDAqua

Thanks for the warm welcome, BDAqua.

Being as the laptop in question is an iBook G3 500MHz (commonly "dual-USB"), it does have a single FireWire 600 port.

I'm running Mac OS X 10.3.9, and everything is completely up-to-date to my knowledge.

What FireWire DVD drives would you recommend? Thanks for your help.

Jul 26, 2009 2:09 PM in response to AndyC.

Not all PPC Macs are incapable of booting from a USB drive. You could certainly try inasmuch as your iBook was the dual USB model and may actually startup from a USB device. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Just be patient because if the computer will boot from a USB device it will be very, very slow.

If you purchase a FireWire external drive it must support FW400 because that's all the iBook supports. You could likely make your own by purchasing a suitable bare drive and buying a separate enclosure for it that supported FW400. You can find suitable drives and enclosures at macsales.com.

Note that your version of OS X may not support all the features of modern DVD drives. I would suggest you verify compatibility with the vendor before purchase.

Jul 26, 2009 2:43 PM in response to BDAqua

BDAqua wrote:
Another option, do you have another Firewire Mac around with a DVD player?


Sadly, my iBook is the only Mac computer I have. The only other piece of Apple hardware I own is a 120GB iPod Classic, which I surely doubt will be much help in this instance.

Thanks for the advice on the FireWire drive, I had found my way to that website as well, and was hoping for confirmation on it being reliable.

Jul 26, 2009 3:34 PM in response to AndyC.

Check the AllMac link below for Tiger on CDs.

Tiger install DVDs are in short supply. Tiger is no longer available at the Apple Store but may be available for $129 by calling Apple Phone Sales @ 1-800-MY-APPLE (1-800-692-7753). For other sources, do a Google search for MA453Z/A (10.4.6), MA190Z/A (10.4.3) and M9639Z/A (10.4) . Also look on eBay. Be sure & buy a retail version (black with silver X) User uploaded file and not a model specific version (gray) (See Can I use another Mac's system restore disc on my Mac? ). Expect to pay (possibly a lot) more than the Apple list price of $129.

Also check these web stores: http://www.lacomputercompany.com/cgi-bin/rpcart/index.cgi?command=dispitem&type= sku&sku=19521 http://www.allmac.com/shop/index.php?cPath=5_10003

Possible Alternative if you are currently using Panther 10.3 – Do a Google search for Tiger 10.4 Upgrade DVD . It will upgrade your 10.3 to 10.4, but it doesn’t contain the full retail Tiger installer. Should be cheaper than the retail Tiger install DVD.

After you install the base 10.4.x, update to the final Tiger version 10.4.11. Here's the link for the 10.4.11 combo update http://support.apple.com/kb/TA24901?viewlocale=en_US

Look at this link Mac OS X v10.4 Tiger Installing Software Support Page
http://www.apple.com/support/tiger/install/

You can also download the Tiger Installation and Setup Guide
http://manuals.info.apple.com/en/TigerInstall_SetupGuide.pdf

When you upgrade the OS, do it via Archive & Install. See About the Archive and Install feature http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1710
Be sure to select Preserve Users & Settings. Also, repair permissions before and after the install.

 Cheers, Tom 😉

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Jul 26, 2009 6:02 PM in response to Texas Mac Man

Texas Mac Man wrote:
Possible Alternative if you are currently using Panther 10.3 – Do a Google search for Tiger 10.4 Upgrade DVD . It will upgrade your 10.3 to 10.4, but it doesn’t contain the full retail Tiger installer. Should be cheaper than the retail Tiger install DVD.


Thanks for the heads-up on AllMac, Tom. But I'm confused a little bit as to your directions quoted above. Care to elaborate? Thanks again.

Install 10.4 Tiger using external USB DVD drive?

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