Color Palates for Pages '09

I looked at the "Help" file in Pages '09 and it talked about a Color Wheel. I do not have a color wheel. Is it supposed to be there, or is this something left over from a previous version of Pages?

Also, how do you add other color palates to use with Pages? I have the basic RGB, CMYK, HSB, and grayscale? I would like to have other palates I can use, such as Pantone, Trumatch, and Web safe colors. Any suggestions?

Thanks.

iMac Intel 24", Mac OS X (10.5.7)

Posted on Jul 27, 2009 8:21 PM

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Jul 28, 2009 12:30 AM in response to Kenneth Ryland

OSX does not support spot colors, so you can not specify Pantone. Trumatch is based on cmyk but there is no direct way to use it.

There is a pricey 3rd part solution, 39 euro, to patch a named pallette into the Color Selector. This is a faux solution because on top of the uncertainty of it working with Pages '09 it requires the prior installation of Adobe's CS software or Quark Xpress in which case there would be little need to use Pages.

These are not real spot colors but merely RGB or CMYK approximations of the Pantone palettes.

Unfortunately this is a big hole in OSX which Apple looks disinclined to do anything about.

Peter

Jul 28, 2009 1:00 AM in response to Kenneth Ryland

I do not have a color wheel.


Yes, you do. Open the Apple Colour Palette and choose the leftmost palette mode, Colour Wheel.

I have the basic RGB, CMYK, HSB, and grayscale?


Yes, these are the colourant models / colourant formats that can be colour managed.

I would like to have ... Web safe colors.


Yes, you have Web Safe colours. Open the Apple Colour Palette and choose the middle palette mode, Colour Palettes, then open the drop-down list and choose Web Safe Colours (which is in fact a colour managed NMCL Named Colour list profile).

I would like to have other palates I can use, such as Pantone, Trumatch,


No, you cannot colour manage these colourant models / colourant formats. They are premixed and form the intended colours if and only if you precisely duplicate the intended printing conditions (intended paper, intended tone value increase, intended ink set). That is, these colourant combinations are not 'portable' or 'repurposable' from one printing condition to another nor are they defined if you deviate, that is, if you were to use a named colour profile for them, which you could in principle do, that named colour profile would apply if and only if you used the colour definitions for conditions at which the colourants were laid down at 100% as intended. If you used the colour definitions for a 75% tint of Pantone XXX or Trumatch YYY, you would have no predictable colour definition any more.

Peter Breis still does not get to base one on the portability of spot versus process in paginated publishing -:)

/hh

Jul 28, 2009 5:59 AM in response to Henrik Holmegaard

at the top right of the Colors pane


Top left, see Peggy's post.


When someone mistakenly thinks they do not have a color wheel, it is sometimes because they cannot see it to select it, and that is because the area at the top of the Colors pane where you can select it is closed, and the way you open that is to click on the little oval at the top right.

Whether that in fact was an issue for the OP I don't know.

Jul 28, 2009 7:57 AM in response to Tom Gewecke

and that is because the area at the top of the Colors pane where you can select it is closed, and the way you open that is to click on the little oval at the top right.


You're right, the Apple Colour Palette is so constructed that

- the set of selectors for colourant model can be hidden, and

- the set of selectors for ICC source colour space are always hidden.

I am sure that the Apple Font Palette is from NextStep release 3 in 1992. I am not sure that the Apple Colour Palette is also from NextStep release 3 in 1992.

/hh

Jul 28, 2009 9:29 AM in response to Kenneth Ryland

Peggy, et al,

First, thanks for all the replies.

Second, sorry for misspelling palettes. As an editor I should know better. I rely way too much on the spell checker and not enough on my own brain.

Third, I'm sorry to say that in spite of your suggestions, I cannot find a color wheel or any of the other color options besides the ones I mentioned previously. If the program will let me, I'll give you a screen shot of what I am talking about.

Well, that didn't work. Sorry I can't show you a screen shot of what my color palette looks like. Maybe you can tell me how you posted the screen shot.

Jul 28, 2009 9:45 AM in response to Kenneth Ryland

Kenneth Ryland wrote:
Well, that didn't work. Sorry I can't show you a screen shot of what my color palette looks like. Maybe you can tell me how you posted the screen shot.


Command-Shift-4

Drag the capture area.

File appears on Desktop. Give it a descriptive name.

Upload file to photo hosting service, your Mobile Me account, etc.

Copy HTML address of the photo on the host, usually presented with other sharing options.

Paste the HTML code into your post here.

Regard,

Jerry

Jul 28, 2009 6:22 PM in response to Kenneth Ryland

A strange thing happened. I opened Numbers and clicked the "Colors" icon. It came up exactly as Peggy shows it. I then did the same thing with "Keynote," and the correct color palette came up -- with all the options. However, when I went back to Pages and did the same thing, none of the options came up in the color palette. The correct palette also comes up in TextEdit.

I have no explanation, but maybe someone out there does.

Thanks.

Ken Ryland

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