10 Replies Latest reply: Aug 30, 2009 9:31 PM by Edward James
lovegoodgirl1 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
Just wondering if anyone else has had this problem?
My IPhone will charge sometimes and sometime it wont:
I mean like sometimes it will charge from the wall socket and sometimes it wont!
It will go so far as to turn off because of no battery life! Then I plug it in to the Laptop and it starts charging!

I Pone 3G, iPhone OS 3.0
  • Jason L Community Specialists Community Specialists (10,980 points)
    Hi,

    Does the issue only occur when charging the iPhone with the USB Power Adapter that came with it?

    Make sure the USB Power Adapter is plugged directly into the wall.
    Also, try testing the USB adapter in another outlet.

    If you have another Dock Connector to USB Cable or USB Power Adapter, you could try testing with one of those to find out if there is a hardware issue.

    If you believe there is a hardware issue with the USB Power Adapter, request repair online here: https://selfsolve.apple.com/GetWarranty.do

    You can also make a reservation with a Genius online here: http://www.apple.com/retail/geniusbar/ or call AppleCare U.S. iPhone technical support at: 1-800-MY-IPHONE (1-800-694-7466).

    -Jason
  • docs44 Level 1 Level 1 (70 points)
    Could be a bad cable too. I had a bad one and sometimes it would charge and sometimes it wouldn't. The part that connected on the bottom of the phone, if I wiggled the cable at the bottom, it would go back and forth between charging and not charging.
  • objectively Level 1 Level 1 (30 points)
    I have this same problem now.

    I wonder if it is the battery.

    Does anyone know if the power supplied by the computer USB connection is LOWER than the power level from the wall socket? Or something?

    I have changed cables and power adapters. It's not them; it is the iPhone. I have two iPhone 3Gs and so I can test everything.
  • Aarky Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    I have had this problem for some time. It applies to both a wall charger (the one that came with iPhone and a third-party model) and a car charger (third party). Both wall and car chargers are rated at 1000 ma which should be enough power. Yet when the battery charge goes below a certain level the phone will not charge from wall or car charger, but it will charge from a computer.

    I did some research on USB power. Per specification, a USB client (the iPhone) cannot draw more than 100 ma from the USB host (charger or computer or hub) unless it asks for and gets permission to draw more current. (This is so it does not interfere with other USB devices connected to the host.)

    Inexpensive wall chargers do not contain any computing elements. They short the D+ and D- lines together. This makes it impossible for a client to negotiate a higher current draw, so the iPhone, working per the USB standard, limits itself to 100 ma. When connected to a computing device such as a computer or USB hub, the iPhone can negotiate a higher current, up to the 500 ma currently allowed by the USB standard.

    This begs the question, why can't the iPhone charge on 100 ma when the battery is almost completely discharged? After all, when the battery has more charge, the iPhone will charge nicely from a wall charger. Perhaps someone has some insight into this aspect.

    There is evidently a new USB standard for wall chargers that will fix this issue. Both the host and client must implement in order for it to work. (I haven't read the standard, but suspect it involves the client detecting that the D+ and D- lines are shorted together.) Obviously, either the charger or my iPhone 3G don't comply with this new standard. Maybe the iPhone 3GS does? Or maybe we have to wait for another iPhone model that has the hardware that complies with the new USB wall charger standard.

    Meanwhile I have to be careful not to fully discharge my iPhone battery when I am away from a computer. I recently went on a 30-day trip and had no problem because I charged the phone every night. Of course, I did not use it much because it was an international trip and AT&T roaming rates are horribly expensive.
  • objectively Level 1 Level 1 (30 points)
    Thanks for your detective work. I think you nailed it.

    I had observed the same phenomenon, casually, but did not really think much of it: that the phone won't charge from the wall when it is below a certain level.

    I only noticed that it seemed to charge with the Mac and not with wall power.

    I am wondering if this is the end stage of the battery's life, and wonder how many more weeks/months before the thing can't charge at all.

    The battery is supposed to be rated for 500 cycles; so if we charge on a DAILY basis, that's 365 cycles out, leaving maybe a few more months plus a year for battery life.
  • coocooforcocoapuffs Level 3 Level 3 (845 points)
    I have almost the opposite problem, this 3g cycles from discharge to charge all the time while plugged into a mac. tried many macs many cables and uninstalling apps, resetting, etc. there seems to be something strange with the charging circuitry, as there are thousands of posts like this. hmmmm....
  • Luis Cypher Level 1 Level 1 (30 points)
    Thanks for that great explanation. On my iPhone 3G it only charges from the PC when the charge gets too low. So apple, now that we know the reason, can we get a patch.
  • Luis Cypher Level 1 Level 1 (30 points)
    One more note, it always charges fom the PS3, though slowly
  • Macaby Level 3 Level 3 (910 points)
    Aarky wrote:
    I recently went on a 30-day trip and had no problem because I charged the phone every night. Of >course, I did not use it much because it was an international trip and AT&T roaming rates are horribly >expensive.


    Have you checked out Skype for the IP. All you need is a WiFi connection and you can call anywhere in the world for around 2 cents a minute (l think its free to another Skype user.) I recently used it from Greece and it worked great.
  • Edward James Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    http://carlhutzler.com/blog/2009/07/28/usb-hub-as-an-ipodiphone-charger/

    This excellent blog post describes a workaround for this very situation.