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  • RonL Level 1 Level 1 (45 points)
    According to Apple support if any of the 'error' messages that are listed on the following link are listed... there is nothing to be concerned about...

    *http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1448*

    Of course it would be nice if they simply did not appear so that we wouldn't have to take the time to post or go through all of them (I happen to have lots of them after the 10.5.8 update).
  • RonL Level 1 Level 1 (45 points)
    Ran Combo updater again and then once again from an external drive but still had lots of 'error' messages.

    But according to Apple support the messages that are listed (though there are a lot of them) are not to be concerned about.

    *http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1448*
  • Gerben Wierda Level 1 Level 1 (125 points)
    I think this is what happens:
    - For files not installed yet, their permissions (and owner) are taken from nonexisting files during the update process and stored in the package Receipts (Base system). Obviously, the combo drive may affect more files.
    - Installing the update twice +without repairing permissions between+ re-reads permissions from the files which at that point are available and the receipts are fixed.

    I have tested this and it works. If you install the update twice without repairing permissions in between, the permissions database does not have the permission-000 settings for the files.
  • Gerben Wierda Level 1 Level 1 (125 points)
    +Obviously, the combo drive may affect more files+

    Umm, combo update, not combo drive.

    G
  • Stat Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    RonL sorry but those here http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1448 are known and have to do with the "l" hardcoded links. Those types we all know can be ignored.

    This is a different issue with ?.......... and the "_CodeSignature" folders and the fact that "Everyone" has no access after the updates and permissions. Apple has not responded to this issue yet to my knowledge.
  • Steve Ashcroft Level 1 Level 1 (30 points)
    I can confirm that a second application of the Combo updater without repairing permissions after the first does indeed fix the problem.
  • swlesh Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
    Gerben Wierda wrote:

    - Installing the update twice +without repairing permissions between+ re-reads permissions from the files which at that point are available and the receipts are fixed.

    I have tested this and it works. If you install the update twice without repairing permissions in between, the permissions database does not have the permission-000 settings for the files.


    I can also confirm that this works...

    I simply installed the combo update yet again, but twice in a row (installed and then immediately installed again) from my internal drive and no more "should be ?---------" permissions.

    Go Gerben.
  • elinf Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    I repaired permissions because I am having problems with mobile me syncing and that was one of the troubleshooting suggestions. I keep running the repair and getting the same repair log. No matter how many times I "repair" it always finds the same permissions problems. Is this significant or should I ignore?


    Repairing permissions for “Macintosh HD”
    Reading permissions database.
    Reading the permissions database can take several minutes.

    Permissions differ on "System/Library/Frameworks/CoreVideo.framework/Versions/A/CodeResources", should be -rw-r--r-- , they are lrw-r--r-- .
    Permissions differ on "System/Library/Components/CoreMediaAuthoringPrivateComponents.component/Conten ts/CodeResources", should be -rw-r--r-- , they are lrw-r--r-- .
    Permissions differ on "System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/CoreMediaAuthoringPrivate.framework/Versions/ A/CodeResources", should be -rw-r--r-- , they are lrw-r--r-- .
    Permissions differ on "System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/CoreMediaPrivate.framework/Versions/A/CodeRes ources", should be -rw-r--r-- , they are lrw-r--r-- .
    Permissions differ on "System/Library/QuickTime/AppleProResDecoder.component/Contents/CodeResources", should be -rw-r--r-- , they are lrw-r--r-- .
    Permissions differ on "System/Library/PreferencePanes/QuickTime.prefPane/Contents/CodeResources", should be -rw-r--r-- , they are lrw-r--r-- .
    Permissions differ on "System/Library/PreferencePanes/QuickTime.prefPane/Contents/Resources/QTAdvance d.prefPane/Contents/CodeResources", should be -rw-r--r-- , they are lrw-r--r-- .
    Permissions differ on "System/Library/PreferencePanes/QuickTime.prefPane/Contents/Resources/QTAdvance d.prefPane/Contents/Resources/QTMediaKeys.bundle/Contents/CodeResources", should be -rw-r--r-- , they are lrw-r--r-- .
    Permissions differ on "System/Library/PreferencePanes/QuickTime.prefPane/Contents/Resources/QTAdvance d.prefPane/Contents/Resources/QTMime.bundle/Contents/CodeResources", should be -rw-r--r-- , they are lrw-r--r-- .
    Permissions differ on "System/Library/PreferencePanes/QuickTime.prefPane/Contents/Resources/QTAdvance d.prefPane/Contents/Resources/QTTransport.bundle/Contents/CodeResources", should be -rw-r--r-- , they are lrw-r--r-- .
    Permissions differ on "System/Library/PreferencePanes/QuickTime.prefPane/Contents/Resources/QTPlugIn. prefPane/Contents/CodeResources", should be -rw-r--r-- , they are lrw-r--r-- .
    Permissions differ on "System/Library/PreferencePanes/QuickTime.prefPane/Contents/Resources/QTRegiste r.prefPane/Contents/CodeResources", should be -rw-r--r-- , they are lrw-r--r-- .
    Permissions differ on "System/Library/PreferencePanes/QuickTime.prefPane/Contents/Resources/QTRegiste r.prefPane/Contents/Resources/QTAbout.bundle/Contents/CodeResources", should be -rw-r--r-- , they are lrw-r--r-- .
    Permissions differ on "System/Library/PreferencePanes/QuickTime.prefPane/Contents/Resources/QTStreami ng.prefPane/Contents/CodeResources", should be -rw-r--r-- , they are lrw-r--r-- .
    Permissions differ on "System/Library/PreferencePanes/QuickTime.prefPane/Contents/Resources/QTUpdate. prefPane/Contents/CodeResources", should be -rw-r--r-- , they are lrw-r--r-- .

    Permissions repair complete
  • Gerben Wierda Level 1 Level 1 (125 points)
    These ("should be -rw-r--r-- , they are lrw-r--r--") you can safely ignore according to Apple.
  • Stat Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Gerben Wierda wrote:
    I think this is what happens:
    - For files not installed yet, their permissions (and owner) are taken from nonexisting files during the update process and stored in the package Receipts (Base system). Obviously, the combo drive may affect more files.
    - Installing the update twice +without repairing permissions between+ re-reads permissions from the files which at that point are available and the receipts are fixed.

    I have tested this and it works. If you install the update twice without repairing permissions in between, the permissions database does not have the permission-000 settings for the files.


    Excellent, I did this twice on two different machines that had exhibited the same problems and everything is back to normal! Yes the "l" link files are there and a few more actually but We can live with that for now. There are no more no access problems in any of the previously mentioned areas in my original post.

    I never tried any of the terminal or other commands mentioned above in other posts here as I was unsure of the end results considering we are dealing with root files and code signatures and resources.

    Still not sure what the cause is of course other than a possible bad coding and clean up in the update patches for the OS but, this does seem to fix the issue at least for me so far and unless it crops up again and doesn't fix with this solution then I'll be reposting about the problem on my end.

    Thank you all for the efforts and help. At least now I can stop pulling what little hair out I have left

    Edit and note: Gerben Wierda I gave you credit I think in this as being solved by you

    Message was edited by: Stat
  • KJK555 Level 4 Level 4 (2,895 points)
    I finally cured the ?------ problem by re installing (installing over the combo install again) using the
    command line installer tool.

    open (mount) the 10.5.8 update, open terminal, at the prompt:
    sudo installer -verboseR -pkg /Volumes/Mac\ OS\ X\ Update\ Combined/MacOSXUpdCombo10.5.8.pkg -target / -lang en
    (press return, enter admin password, press return again)

    Kj
  • maukap Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    hi
    it seems to be ok wifi connection after permissions repair (!?)
    I hope it will be keeping so....
    thank you so much for information
  • mert Level 3 Level 3 (880 points)
    Stat wrote:
    mert I know it is a bit early and I have not had a chance yet to check but please keep us advised to the answers from your bug report.


    Copy that. Also, my bug report includes a reference to this thread.
    I'm off to try the back-to-back combo install (I was too nervous to mess with pkgutil). If double install works - and it sounds like it does for many folks - that seems like be a more "gentle" fix than using pkgutil.
  • Richard Outerbridge Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)
    While this is the emerging consensus (repair permissions; apply combo update; apply combo update again; repair permissions) on how to avoid the problem if it afflicts you, it doesn't explain why some systems aren't affected to begin with - or how to tell if you're afflicted beforehand.

    From here on does the "fail-safe" update install rule-of-thumb become repair-install-install-repair?
  • MACundari Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
    +"From here on does the "fail-safe" update install rule-of-thumb become repair-install-install-repair?"+

    What? This is all very confusing.

    Anyway, I just finished re-installing the 10.5.8 combo while booting from another drive. I DID NOT REPAIR THE PERMISSIONS. But I did verify and this is what came up:

    *Verify permissions for “System”*
    * Reading permissions database.*
    * Reading the permissions database can take several minutes.*

    *Group differs on "Library/Application Support/hp/hppa/Plugins/ColorCleaning.plugin/Contents/Resources/da.lproj/HSDCol orCleaningTaskController.nib/classes.nib", should be 80, group is 20.*
    *Group differs on "Library/Application Support/hp/hppa/Plugins/ColorCleaning.plugin/Contents/Resources/da.lproj/HSDCol orCleaningTaskController.nib/info.nib", should be 80, group is 20.*
    *Group differs on "Library/Application Support/hp/hppa/Plugins/ColorCleaning.plugin/Contents/Resources/da.lproj/HSDCol orCleaningTaskController.nib/objects.nib", should be 80, group is 20.*
    *Group differs on "Library/Application Support/hp/hppa/Plugins/ColorCleaning.plugin/Contents/Resources/da.lproj/HSDCol orCleaningTaskController.nib", should be 80, group is 20.*
    *Group differs on "Library/Application Support/hp/hppa/Plugins/ColorCleaning.plugin/Contents/Resources/da.lproj/Locali zable.strings", should be 80, group is 20.*
    *Group differs on "Library/Application Support/hp/hppa/Plugins/ColorCleaning.plugin/Contents/Resources/fi.lproj/HSDCol orCleaningTaskController.nib/classes.nib", should be 80, group is 20.*
    *Group differs on "Library/Application Support/hp/hppa/Plugins/ColorCleaning.plugin/Contents/Resources/fi.lproj/HSDCol orCleaningTaskController.nib/info.nib", should be 80, group is 20.*
    *Group differs on "Library/Application Support/hp/hppa/Plugins/ColorCleaning.plugin/Contents/Resources/fi.lproj/HSDCol orCleaningTaskController.nib/keyedobjects.nib", should be 80, group is 20.*
    *Group differs on "Library/Application Support/hp/hppa/Plugins/ColorCleaning.plugin/Contents/Resources/fi.lproj/HSDCol orCleaningTaskController.nib/objects.nib", should be 80, group is 20.*
    *Group differs on "Library/Application Support/hp/hppa/Plugins/ColorCleaning.plugin/Contents/Resources/fi.lproj/HSDCol orCleaningTaskController.nib", should be 80, group is 20.*
    *Group differs on "Library/Application Support/hp/hppa/Plugins/ColorCleaning.plugin/Contents/Resources/fi.lproj/Locali zable.strings", should be 80, group is 20.*
    *Group differs on "Library/Application Support/hp/hppa/Plugins/ColorCleaning.plugin/Contents/Resources/no.lproj/HSDCol orCleaningTaskController.nib/classes.nib", should be 80, group is 20.*
    *Group differs on "Library/Application Support/hp/hppa/Plugins/ColorCleaning.plugin/Contents/Resources/no.lproj/HSDCol orCleaningTaskController.nib/info.nib", should be 80, group is 20.*
    *Group differs on "Library/Application Support/hp/hppa/Plugins/ColorCleaning.plugin/Contents/Resources/no.lproj/HSDCol orCleaningTaskController.nib/objects.nib", should be 80, group is 20.*
    *Group differs on "Library/Application Support/hp/hppa/Plugins/ColorCleaning.plugin/Contents/Resources/no.lproj/HSDCol orCleaningTaskController.nib", should be 80, group is 20.*
    *Group differs on "Library/Application Support/hp/hppa/Plugins/ColorCleaning.plugin/Contents/Resources/no.lproj/Locali zable.strings", should be 80, group is 20.*
    *Group differs on "Library/Application Support/hp/hppa/Plugins/ColorCleaning.plugin/Contents/Resources/zh_TW.lproj/HSD ColorCleaningTaskController.nib/classes.nib", should be 80, group is 20.*
    *Group differs on "Library/Application Support/hp/hppa/Plugins/ColorCleaning.plugin/Contents/Resources/zh_TW.lproj/HSD ColorCleaningTaskController.nib/info.nib", should be 80, group is 20.*
    *Group differs on "Library/Application Support/hp/hppa/Plugins/ColorCleaning.plugin/Contents/Resources/zh_TW.lproj/HSD ColorCleaningTaskController.nib/objects.nib", should be 80, group is 20.*
    *Group differs on "Library/Application Support/hp/hppa/Plugins/ColorCleaning.plugin/Contents/Resources/zh_TW.lproj/HSD ColorCleaningTaskController.nib", should be 80, group is 20.*
    *Group differs on "Library/Application Support/hp/hppa/Plugins/ColorCleaning.plugin/Contents/Resources/zh_TW.lproj/Loc alizable.strings", should be 80, group is 20.*
    *Group differs on "Library/Application Support/hp/hppa/Plugins/ControlPanelLanguage.plugin/Contents/Resources/Info.pli st", should be 80, group is 20.*
    *Group differs on "Library/Application Support/hp/hppa/Plugins/ControlPanelLanguage.plugin/Contents/Resources/version. plist", should be 80, group is 20.*
    *Group differs on "Library/Application Support/hp/hppa/Plugins/PenAlignment.plugin/Contents/Resources/da.lproj/HSDPenA lignmentTaskController.nib/classes.nib", should be 80, group is 20.*
    *Group differs on "Library/Application Support/hp/hppa/Plugins/PenAlignment.plugin/Contents/Resources/da.lproj/HSDPenA lignmentTaskController.nib/info.nib", should be 80, group is 20.*
    *Group differs on "Library/Application Support/hp/hppa/Plugins/PenAlignment.plugin/Contents/Resources/da.lproj/HSDPenA lignmentTaskController.nib/objects.nib", should be 80, group is 20.*
    *Group differs on "Library/Application Support/hp/hppa/Plugins/PenAlignment.plugin/Contents/Resources/da.lproj/HSDPenA lignmentTaskController.nib", should be 80, group is 20.*
    *Group differs on "Library/Application Support/hp/hppa/Plugins/PenAlignment.plugin/Contents/Resources/fi.lproj/HSDPenA lignmentTaskController.nib/classes.nib", should be 80, group is 20.*
    *Group differs on "Library/Application Support/hp/hppa/Plugins/PenAlignment.plugin/Contents/Resources/fi.lproj/HSDPenA lignmentTaskController.nib/info.nib", should be 80, group is 20.*
    *Group differs on "Library/Application Support/hp/hppa/Plugins/PenAlignment.plugin/Contents/Resources/fi.lproj/HSDPenA lignmentTaskController.nib/objects.nib", should be 80, group is 20.*
    *Group differs on "Library/Application Support/hp/hppa/Plugins/PenAlignment.plugin/Contents/Resources/fi.lproj/HSDPenA lignmentTaskController.nib", should be 80, group is 20.*
    *Group differs on "Library/Application Support/hp/hppa/Plugins/PenAlignment.plugin/Contents/Resources/no.lproj/HSDPenA lignmentTaskController.nib/classes.nib", should be 80, group is 20.*
    *Group differs on "Library/Application Support/hp/hppa/Plugins/PenAlignment.plugin/Contents/Resources/no.lproj/HSDPenA lignmentTaskController.nib/info.nib", should be 80, group is 20.*
    *Group differs on "Library/Application Support/hp/hppa/Plugins/PenAlignment.plugin/Contents/Resources/no.lproj/HSDPenA lignmentTaskController.nib/objects.nib", should be 80, group is 20.*
    *Group differs on "Library/Application Support/hp/hppa/Plugins/PenAlignment.plugin/Contents/Resources/no.lproj/HSDPenA lignmentTaskController.nib", should be 80, group is 20.*
    *Group differs on "Library/Application Support/hp/hppa/Plugins/PenAlignment.plugin/Contents/Resources/zh_TW.lproj/HSDP enAlignmentTaskController.nib/classes.nib", should be 80, group is 20.*
    *Group differs on "Library/Application Support/hp/hppa/Plugins/PenAlignment.plugin/Contents/Resources/zh_TW.lproj/HSDP enAlignmentTaskController.nib/info.nib", should be 80, group is 20.*
    *Group differs on "Library/Application Support/hp/hppa/Plugins/PenAlignment.plugin/Contents/Resources/zh_TW.lproj/HSDP enAlignmentTaskController.nib/objects.nib", should be 80, group is 20.*
    *Group differs on "Library/Application Support/hp/hppa/Plugins/PenAlignment.plugin/Contents/Resources/zh_TW.lproj/HSDP enAlignmentTaskController.nib", should be 80, group is 20.*
    *Group differs on "Library/Printers/hp/Utilities/HP Printer Utility.app/Contents/Resources/HPPU/2EF2A92335D9658C9103B6A3BBB856DE/26D093AAF8 C485C8487B1CFA6D9618E9870CF4BF560A38E897176D8B785F3892", should be 80, group is 20.*
    *Group differs on "Library/Printers/hp/Utilities/HP Printer Utility.app/Contents/Resources/HPPU/2EF2A92335D9658C9103B6A3BBB856DE/26D093AAF8 C485C88C4B20CA03C86B3ABAC794600760C2A3", should be 80, group is 20.*
    *Group differs on "Library/Printers/hp/Utilities/HP Printer Utility.app/Contents/Resources/HPPU/2EF2A92335D9658C9103B6A3BBB856DE/26D093AAF8 C485C8CD971B337F27750DBAC794600760C2A3", should be 80, group is 20.*
    *Group differs on "Library/Printers/hp/Utilities/HP Printer Utility.app/Contents/Resources/HPPU/2EF2A92335D9658C9103B6A3BBB856DE/44F4FDAC51 118BDA174E3DA993CD82A9", should be 80, group is 20.*
    *Group differs on "Library/Printers/hp/Utilities/HP Printer Utility.app/Contents/Resources/HPPU/2EF2A92335D9658C9103B6A3BBB856DE/951CF330AA 331AAE7E4B1F20171F565C336DC8D35892B579", should be 80, group is 20.*
    *Group differs on "Library/Printers/hp/Utilities/HP Printer Utility.app/Contents/Resources/HPPU/2EF2A92335D9658C9103B6A3BBB856DE/951CF330AA 331AAE7E4B1F20171F565C56CAC322AB995310", should be 80, group is 20.*

    *Permissions verification complete*

    COMPLETELY different from when I installed the combo the first time and proceeded to repair the permissions (see my earliest post to this thread). Those all said: *Permissions differ on "System/Library..."* This newest set is entirely related to my HP printer. But the printer works. Ran a few test prints and all is well. For now anyway.

    So should I just leave it alone? Is this as good as it gets?
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