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  • AJH75 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Just letting you know that I have the same problem with my 3G running 3.0.1. The problem started already with 3.0.0, but it wasn't like this with 2.x.x versions.

    I have configured one POP3 account and one IMAP account. I have set both accounts to fetch emails manually, but every time I open Contacts and if I stay in the contacts app for longer than a few seconds it will fetch my emails. I doesn't matter if the contact I choose contains an email address or not. It loads emails every time I open contacts.
  • Lawrence Finch Level 7 Level 7 (32,645 points)
    I have a similar configuration, 2 POP accounts and one IMAP. I don't see this symptom.

    I wonder of people who have it have something else in common, like a 3rd party app that is causing it. A couple of people have mentioned using a monitor program that identifies running processes. Do you have such a program on your device?
  • The Dude Abides Level 4 Level 4 (1,835 points)
    No. Nor is my fetch limited to Contacts. Just sort of.... happens... at random.
  • AJH75 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    I can't really think of any app that could be causing this. I haven't jailbreaked my iPhone and all the apps I have are bought from App Store. There is just one thing I started wondering: I think I have configured my email accounts already when the phone was running 2.X version of the OS. Could it be that migrating the existing accounts into 3.0.X has some issues. Perhaps I should reconfigure my accounts from scratch with 3.0.1(?)
  • Lawrence Finch Level 7 Level 7 (32,645 points)
    Ah, now you have an idea. I had a problem initially after upgrading to 3.0. It wasn't your problem (it was email continuously polling for email once the mail app had been opened once, running down the battery), but I was able to fix it by deleting my email accounts, rebooting, and adding them back.
  • HighLife420 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    I dont think its a common 3rd party app (god, apple forums love blaming everything but apple huh?)

    I dont understand it at all...first its jailbreak, now its 3rd party app...whats next? Why is it sooooo hard to believe its the fault of the softwares design?

    There is NO APP that would Auto open mail for any reason..

    This happens on alot of iphones, not just 1.

    Come on, enough with blaming everyone else but apple...

    Ok, we figured out this does happen...its NOT JAIL BREAK, its NOT 3RD PARTY APP. ITS A SOFTWARE design problem. Too many people here have posted about this. By design i can see why it does it, but i dont know why it would auto check the mail. It doesnt make sense..

    Again...we have to check our mail to compose a email? So people with lots of mail coming in daily, would have to sit there and wait for the mail to download filling up the inbox and running battery down.
  • Allan Sampson Level 10 Level 10 (123,370 points)
    It is called troubleshooting, which involves asking questions, especially since the same does not occur when EVERYONE'S iPhone. Lawrence said "I wonder if", which isn't blaming anything or everything but Apple. The same is happening on a lot of iPhones - no one has stated or indicated that your iPhone is the only one, but it isn't happening with EVERYONE'S iPhone. Since the same is not happening with EVERYONE'S iPhone, there may be a contributing factor that is common to those having the problem, which is what troubleshooting involves and is often a process of elimination.

    Have you used the iPhone feedback link, or contacted AppleCare to report this?
  • HighLife420 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    i understand what troubleshooting is...however, i think after the 3rd page, we can conclude that its NOT a 3rd party app or anything. We've proved that...move on. ELIMINATED

    Its not jailbreak, since the phone is not jailbreak. Move On..ELIMANATED

    Its not just my phone, others have seen this..Move on....ELIMINATED

    There are simple reasons why alot of people not experiencing this problem. There are contributing factors. First off, could be that those people not running manual fetch, out of those people, how many using 3.0.1 and out of those people how many actually setup their emails, and so on and so forth.

    Im going to take a trip to the apple store with my phone and show them, maybe ask the geniuses there.

    I appreciate the help, but in the beginning it was the jail break suspected, then it was a 3rd party app suspected, instead of apple being suspected. Apple does make mistakes you know..just be alittle less Apple Fan boy about things...Apple isnt the perfect company with the perfect product...its ok for them or anyone to make mistakes you know. They still make pretty good products...im not saying i hate apple or anything like that.
  • Allan Sampson Level 10 Level 10 (123,370 points)
    Apparently, you don't understand what troubleshooting is or involves, and your reading comprehension is lacking.

    Once again - no one, and I mean no one stated or indicated that your iPhone is the only one with this problem.

    Since this must a bug that doesn't affect all iPhones, continuing to post here about it or chiming in with your diatribe against anyone trying to help asking a question won't accomplish anything. Fellow users who have read this thread are very much aware that you are not the only one experiencing this problem - no one has stated or indicated that you are the only one.

    And visiting an Apple store won't accomplish much if anything either. Fellow users and Apple store employees cannot correct a bug in the iPhone firmware.

    As I provided a number of times which has gone completely ignored, you should use the iPhone feedback link which ensures it gets forwarded to the appropriate Apple personnel, and you should call AppleCare to report this as a bug.
  • Lawrence Finch Level 7 Level 7 (32,645 points)
    HighLife420 wrote:
    I dont think its a common 3rd party app (god, apple forums love blaming everything but apple huh?)

    I dont understand it at all...first its jailbreak, now its 3rd party app...whats next? Why is it sooooo hard to believe its the fault of the softwares design?

    BECAUSE IT HAPPENS TO A VANISHING SMALL NUMBER OF USERS. In asking about hacking or other apps we are trying to help understand what it happens to you and a few others, and not to the other 60 million phone users.


    There is NO APP that would Auto open mail for any reason..

    This happens on alot of iphones, not just 1.

    Not a lot, a very small number. It doesn't happen on any of the 2 dozen phones in my office.

    Come on, enough with blaming everyone else but apple...

    Ok, we figured out this does happen...its NOT JAIL BREAK, its NOT 3RD PARTY APP. ITS A SOFTWARE design problem. Too many people here have posted about this. By design i can see why it does it, but i dont know why it would auto check the mail. It doesnt make sense..

    Again...we have to check our mail to compose a email? So people with lots of mail coming in daily, would have to sit there and wait for the mail to download filling up the inbox and running battery down.

    That is a different issue. The OP said that merely opening contacts caused mail to download. There is ONE mail app. It downloads email when it is opened. Composing mail opens it. There's no way around that. Try composing mail in Outlook without it downloading your pending mail. Or Thunderbird. Or mail.app on a Mac. Or Pegasus. Or... It's the way mail apps work. If you don't like it and it bothers you that much sell your iPhone and get a Blackberry -- oh, wait a minute -- the Blackberry downloads mail automatically even doing nothing. Or a Palm Treo -- oh, wait a minute; they are discontinued. I challenge you to find any email client that does not download mail when it is opened to compose mail.
  • HighLife420 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    point being is this whole thread has been nothing but me trying to prove to you this happens.

    People have confirmed, you have confirmed this does happen.

    There is no way to fix it, its just a PoS feature you have to live with.

    Comparing this to email functions on a computer is ridiculous, most PCs have T O N space and have enough memory to run email fetching every few mins. However, since the Iphone battery is terrible enough, this is just making it worse. Not to mention the space or the memory taken to do so. Also, there is a setting in outlook to not check email upon opening, outlook express also...eudora..thunderbird...umm ya, pretty much ALL email will allow you to turn off automatic checking...i use that on my outlook...will provide info if you like to check your mail manually.

    It still doesnt make sense...its doing something that we tell it NOT to do. Its doing it cause one thing opens up another thing...

    Thanks for all the help. I will add a feedback email about this and other things, but its really not going to help as it never does.
  • Lawrence Finch Level 7 Level 7 (32,645 points)
    Please send feedback. But it isn't going to change. Learn to live with it or get a different phone, if you can find one that doesn't do it. This is my 4th smart phone, however, and I've never had one that didn't download email when you open the app to send mail either directly or indirectly.

    The battery life issue is a non-issue. Unless you get thousands of messages a day the impact on battery life of downloading email is negligible. An average message takes a second or two out of your 6 hours of 3G battery life. to use even an hour of it would require over 1000 messages.

    Something else you are missing - it DOES NOT download email messages when you open mail. It only downloads headers. It doesn't download the message until you open it, unless it is under 2K.
  • HighLife420 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Lots of phones have a feature to turn off auto checking...my blackjack 1 and blackjack 2 both had a receive button to check mail manually. My Nokia prior to that was able to only check mail manually..but that was like 4 years ago.

    Im writing out a email as we speak about it a few other shortcomings. Going to send it as a feedback, but again, i doubt it will make a difference.

    I was not aware of it only downloading headers...i do have a few attachments that some of my emails contain, does this mean it will NOT download that attachment? Thats good to know.

    Im not personally getting on anyone here...just seems that it took so long to get to helping with the problem rather than the old "you dont like the iphone, dont use it". Thats not the way to go about this..

    again, thanks for the help.
  • Allan Sampson Level 10 Level 10 (123,370 points)
    point being is this whole thread has been nothing but me trying to prove to you this happens.


    Baloney. You weren't very clear about when this happens. You went on about selecting some button that doesn't exist when viewing a contact's info, which turned out to be when selecting a contact's email address when viewing a contact's info, which provides a new message with the selected email address entered in the To: field for the new message, which launches the Mail client, and when the Mail client is launched, all active email accounts are checked for new messages. All email accounts being checked for new messages when the Mail client is launched is by design.

    Then it was eventually determined that the same occurs when you simply view a contact's info only without selecting anything. I'm pretty sure this is not by design and is a bug, which doesn't happen with EVERYONE'S iPhone.

    People have confirmed, you have confirmed this does happen.


    No one, and I mean no one stated or indicated that your iPhone is the only one, so let it go, but I have not experienced the same and I'll bet you dollars to donuts I'm not the only one it doesn't happen to.

    There is no way to fix it, its just a PoS feature you have to live with.


    Your poor reading comprehension skills are exhibited once again with this statement.

    There is no way to fix a bug. It is impossible for a fellow user or an Apple store to fix a bug with the iPhone firmware, and no one, and I mean no one stated or indicated that the Mail client checking email accounts for new messages just by viewing a contact's info only is a feature that you have to live with. But you will have to live with it until this is addressed by Apple with a future firmware update.

    For the last friggin' time - use the iPhone feedback link to report this, or call AppleCare at (800) 694-7466 to report this as a bug.
  • HighLife420 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    thanks allan...

    switch to decaf btw...

    your poor people skills proves why you have soooo many posts here...no friends outside this...seriously, relax...go take a walk outside...unplug from the matrix =) its a wonderful day outside today...