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Old Digital 8 / Sony DCR-TRV730 - Help w/ Easy Setup

2221 Views 12 Replies Latest reply: Aug 10, 2009 7:16 PM by dOOsi7 RSS
dOOsi7 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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Aug 7, 2009 1:23 AM
FCE Newbie here...

I have old Hi8 and Dig8 DV tapes that I'm trying to capture via Sony DCR-TRV730 camcorder (super old camcorder). I have this cam connected to iMac (late 2006) via Firewire.

What Easy Setup setting is proper for this cam/dv tapes?

Also, roughly how much of files size is 2 hrs of Hi8/Dig8 DV tapes? I do have 1TB External HD (FW) that I will be using as Scratch disk.

Mac OS X (10.5.7)
  • Alchroma Level 6 Level 6 (16,880 points)
    I'd suggest the DV Converter setting. PAL or NTSC to suit the camera.
    Two hours will grab around 26 gig.

    Mac Pro 2.66 Quad, Mac OS X (10.5.6)
  • MartinR Level 6 Level 6 (14,560 points)
    DV-NTSC or DV-PAL depending on the standard in your country & the camera you have.
    Also, 48Khz/16bit audio is normal but if you shot the video at 32KHz/12 bit audio you will have to select the 32Khz version of the appropriate DV easy setup.

    If that doesn't work then try the appropriate *DV Converter* easy setup.
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  • MartinR Level 6 Level 6 (14,560 points)
    First, you will not hear audio through your Mac while FCE is capturing video. This is normal. FCE has never played back audio during capture.

    Second, you appear to have successfully captured your video ... but the audio is out of sync. The most common causes are a mismatched easy setup (48KHz audio when the audio is actually 32KHz) or running a tape to the very end.

    Is the audio +constantly out of sync+ -say, by 2 or 3 seconds ... or does it +drift out of sync+ over time?

    First, check your camera's audio setting - make sure it is 16 bit (48Khz) not 12-bit (32Khz). Most camcorders come from the factory with a default setting of 12-bit audio.

    Then, I'd suggest trying three sample captures using - 1) DV-NTSC , 2) DV-NTSC 32KHz and 3) DV-NTSC DV Converter easy setup. If one works, that's the one to use. If not, let us know details on what happened and we'll see how we can help further.
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  • Alchroma Level 6 Level 6 (16,880 points)
    DV-NTSC Converter won't allow VTR control via FCE, meaning I have to play / >stop via Camcorder.

    That's normal behaviour for the DV Converter option. No camera control as it's main function is an A/D converter in this configuration.

    I get the feeling from reading the thread that you may have used LP record mode which may be adding to the woes.

    Sounds like if you can get the audio sync right you will be good to go. FCE can capture long clips of an hour or so but clip and Sequence properties must match.
    As Martin has already pointed out, 32 and 48 kHz Seqeunce settings match 12 and 16 bit audio from the camera respectively.

    Mac Pro 2.66 Quad, Mac OS X (10.5.6)
  • Alchroma Level 6 Level 6 (16,880 points)
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    Aug 10, 2009 4:17 PM (in response to dOOsi7)
    If all the above does not work for you then I'd have two suggestions.

    1. Capture in 15-20 chunks.
    2. Dub your Hi-8 tapes to a DV camera that is set to 16 bit audio.

    FYI: Even though 48 kHz is a standard, some cameras and other devices can actually capture in a fraction more or less than 48 kHz. eg.48.001.
    Older versions of FCE had manual compensation for this while the newer versions are supposed to cover it automatically.

    If you check the Item properties of the clips with drift can you see a slight variation? If so a dub to DV may just be the saviour.

    Mac Pro 2.66 Quad, Mac OS X (10.5.6)


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