10.5.8 --> Hotter laptop?

yah i got a temp control and it says my comp CPU is over 160 when im gaming im afraid that if i turn up the fans they will just die casue they are going to have to spin constantly anyone have idea's that will help?

There isn't too much you can do. Try to prop up the computer so more air reaches all surfaces. Also, try resetting your PVRAM. Try to keep the ambient temperature down. Also, you may want to try closing as many programs as you can when running single heavy applications.

My MBP actually got cooler with the update, went from around 50 degrees C, to 43 degrees C. At the same ambient temperature.

im going to sound like a noob here but how do i reset that so it goes down?

Sounds like fairly normal "processor intensive" operating temperatures to me. I've logged over 120 days played (/played) in World of Warcraft on my MacBook Pro (2.33GHz) and it's probably safe to say just about all of it has been with the fans on max velocity. As the unit rapidly reaches it's 3rd birthday, the fans have never given me troubles. So I do not foresee a situation where you're "burn them out."

Personally, there should be no reason to use a 3rd party fan monitoring tool. I've done so on the 10+ Apple portables I've owned and they've all been fantastic machines. If there's unreasonable heat issues with your machine I'd be more inclined to refer you (and the unit) to a service provider for diagnostics.

^ He clearly said he has an MBP 2.33GHz which was the top of the range 15" model 2.5-3 years ago. It definitely has a discreet GPU. I have exactly the same model and my experience matches his one.

I also agree with him that installing software to speed up the fans is not necessary.

Hi Andre,

I'm an avid gamer and a firm believer in Apple products. My experience in Apple portable ownership has included 8 different MacBooks, 3 MacBook Airs and 6 MacBook Pros ranging from across the generations since their release in '06. So I'm pretty familiar with their operating temperatures from an ownership and service standpoint.

With that being said (and out of the way), I'll definitely agree with you that the Intel Core Duo machines ran pretty hot (the 1.83, 2.0 & 2.16) machines. A lot of those cooling issues were addressed with the move to the Intel Core 2 Duo machines. Plus, my understanding is that as EFI Firmware updates have come out the fan "logic" has improved.

Apple has always had their cooling philosophy to be reactive vs. proactive. I gave that SMCFanController application a go a while back on one of my machines and watched the internal temperature rise almost 44 degrees (F) before the fans budged above 2000 RPM. So yes, I'll absolutely agree with you that some level of sacrifice would have to occur in cooling to ensure the sleek, slim, look that these machines have had for many years.

However, I also know that Apple has never called their portable computers, "laptops" and they've always referred to them as portable computers in their official documentation on support sites, product marketing materials and included literature.

The design nature of the heat sink to dissipate heat through the enclosure makes design sense and I know when using anyone of my machines as it designed to be used has always been a great experience.

Andre,

Sounds like a plan. I still think it's something worth keeping an eye on. If the machine continues to operate a higher than normal/acceptable temperature it's quite possible that there is something going on. However, it would seem unlikely that a software update would be the cause of a such an issue, but anything is possible.

Out of curiosity, for the sake of the discussion, what does SMC report for the fan speed(s) and temperature when the machine is idle?

Those temps are nothing. My Late 2008 2.8GHz can reach 90ºC + with the Nvidia 9600 active and audio running through Firewire 800 port with minimum processing going on.
Your temps are fine . If I remember tdp on those merom processors is like 100ºC or more. Remember you laptop is like 1" thin. Where else can the thermals go?

I've also noticed my Unibody Macbook being hotter.

I know these temperatures are 'nothing', as you say. But the fact is, unless Apple added additional background processes in 10.5.8 or whatever, something is wrong. More heat = more battery drainage too.

So yeah. This is a problem that needs addressing/fixing/clarifying.

I agree with Qi_Willious that there should be reason behind the increase.

Now I happened to install 10.5.8 the same day I upgraded to a 500GB 7200rpm disk.
There is a heat increase but I'll never be sure if it's due to the faster HD or SW update.

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