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54984 Views 24 Replies Latest reply: Oct 29, 2009 1:04 PM by dearlt
Currently Being ModeratedAug 14, 2009 11:26 PM (in response to dearlt)Thank you!!!! The new zoom in Safari 4 is excellent now that it retains the page formatting but have had no luck finding a way to set the default zoom until now. Great little tip. Thanks again.Macbook Pro Core 2 Duo, Mac OS X (10.5.8), 2.2 GHz 2 GB RAM
Currently Being ModeratedAug 20, 2009 3:47 AM (in response to dearlt)hi there,
i'm having trouble implementing your css. this is my first time creating css. i'm on mac os.
i used textedit to create a .txt file, then altered to an .css via 'get info' in finder (no option to save directly as .css in textedit).
i have closed and reopened safari to no result.
can anyone shed some light on the matter? as a new mac user i'm really enjoying safari but it's killing me not being able to set the default zoom to 120%.
in textedit, i have literally copied:
that's correct, right?ub macbook pro, Mac OS X (10.5.8)
Currently Being ModeratedAug 20, 2009 7:46 AM (in response to phased)did you remember to tell safari to use your css? (see my original post)
could be that this trick does not work on mac. however, the other person who replied seems to be using a mac and got it to work.Windows Vista
Currently Being ModeratedAug 20, 2009 6:50 PM (in response to dearlt)Works brilliantly here on my MacBook Pro.
I needed this becaus for some odd reason, since i updated to safari 4.0.3, Ctrl+ has ceased to work within Safari, but works just fine in other programs. But I can still zoom out in safari using Ctrl-
Also, I found using Textedit on my Mac, I could just ask it to save as defaultzoom.css by just adding the css extension in place of the txt that comes up. It does warn you that its an unusual extension, but does allow you to proceed if you want.
Thanks againMacBook Pro 15" (Unibody), 4GB Ram, 20' iMac G5 PowerPC (iSight) 2.5GB Ram,, Mac OS X (10.5.8), Airport Extreme Base Station 802.11n iPhone 3G, 40GB iPod Photo, 4GB White Nano
Currently Being ModeratedAug 21, 2009 12:39 AM (in response to Drusus)"Also, I found using Textedit on my Mac, I could just ask it to save as defaultzoom.css by just adding the css extension in place of the txt that comes up. It does warn you that its an unusual extension, but does allow you to proceed if you want."
Brilliant. When I did this, it worked.
Thanks, so much. Was very hesitant to move away from Safari but being unable to set the default zoom meant I almost had to. Thanks, once more.ub macbook pro, Mac OS X (10.5.8)
Currently Being ModeratedAug 30, 2009 7:15 AM (in response to dearlt)Thanks dearlt for you post, and thanks for a perfect subject. I was able to find your post in two clicks and implenetent your solution with ease. I have been clicking Ctrl + on every page I been opening for a year and just knew others had issues with this.
Thanks again.MacBook, Mac OS X (10.5.5)
Currently Being ModeratedAug 30, 2009 10:23 AM (in response to Mayo247)Very useful mod but I can't seem to get it to work. When trying to use Drusus tried in Textedit I get the following message:
"You cannot save this document with extension “.css” at the end of the name. The required extension is “.rtf”."
It gives me the option to use both css and rtf extensions, cancel or use .rtg
Following the initial instructions of dearit, I am unable to get this to work.Unibody Macbook Pro 17", Mac OS X (10.5.8)
Currently Being ModeratedAug 30, 2009 10:28 PM (in response to gabvoie)I'm guessing that you probably have Textedit set as a Rich Text format as your default setting. Your document must be in Plain Text format.
Wen you have the document open that you wish to save as css extension, go to got to the menu named "Format" you will see the option to "Make Plain Text" then give the document the appropriate name and add .css (that's dot css).
A Warning will come up stating that txt is the standard extension, but you will be given the option of txt or css
That's all their is to it.
Hope that sorts you out.MacBook Pro 2.8ghz 15" (Unibody), 4GB Ram, 20' iMac G5 PowerPC (iSight) 2.5GB Ram,, Mac OS X (10.5.8), Airport Extreme Base Station 802.11n iPhone 3G, 40GB iPod Photo, 4GB White Nano
Currently Being ModeratedAug 31, 2009 4:30 PM (in response to Drusus)Awesome!
It now works. Thanks for your help.Unibody Macbook Pro 17", Mac OS X (10.5.8)
Currently Being ModeratedSep 3, 2009 1:29 AM (in response to dearlt)Very good tip, but it seems to have some problems.
I was just trying it and i found that in Gmail you have to use horizontal scrolling to see the logout link, because the page layout does not adjust to the screen size. On the other hand, if you start with a 0 zoom level and then you use Ctrl+, the behavior is correct.
Could you confirm if the problem is general or limited to my config/computer?Macbook, Mac OS X (10.5.8)
Currently Being ModeratedSep 3, 2009 9:17 AM (in response to oscarguit)Yes you are right!
This CSS zooming is a crude hack. I think it basically treats a web page like a pdf document where you just enlarges everything.
When you zoom manually, safari does a smarter sort of zoom where it enlarges but tries to keep widths of the elements the same size, reflowing text where needed and scrolling only when necessary.
If the web page has a fixed size that is smaller than your browser window, like this forum, css zoom works ok. But with a page like gmail, which has no width constraint, you get into trouble.
Hmm, wait, I just checked out wiki, which also uses up all available screen real estate, but does NOT have this problem.
Notice in gmail, even if you zoom way out below what should be 100%, the login is still off the screen. The font gets real small but the width of the page stays the same. The css zoom basically "sticks" and isn't completely reversible.
Bottom line: you have to decide which is more annoying: having to hit Ctrl+ for every tab you open, or running into some problematic pages.
On Windows, I use autohotkey (a kdb and mouse macro scripting program) to switch off the CSS on the fly when I need to. I think Mac has similar capability built in, right? If I were really clever, I guess I could program autohotkey to send a few ctrl+ whenever it detects a new window or tab in safari, but I'm not there yet.
Bottom bottom line: Apple needs to add this feature. It's a pretty basic accessibility feature. Doesn't Apple have like an accessibility guru/advocate?Windows Vista
Currently Being ModeratedSep 22, 2009 6:11 PM (in response to dearlt)I did all of the above -
Made file with textedit (copy paste)
Changed the ending to .css
in Safari-preferenes-Advanced-SheetStyles-defaultzoom(the file I created and saved to My documents)
Nothing happens !
I even changed one time to 200% just to see - nothing happens.
I have been crawling on my knees for months in the Defaultless Zoom Safai desert :CMacbook Unibody 2.4 GHz Core 2 Duo 4 GB MHz, Mac OS X (10.5.8), Safari 4.0.3
Currently Being ModeratedSep 22, 2009 6:37 PM (in response to fjsdofnsjgv)PROBLEM SOLVED !! UnFu%#ing Believable
It was due to the rich text font in text edit.
It MUST be copied from here into Textedit which is already in Plain Text format.
You have created a miracle - Finally Safari has this Normal option
Thank you Thank you Thank youMacbook Unibody 2.4 GHz Core 2 Duo 4 GB MHz, Mac OS X (10.5.8), Safari 4.0.3
Currently Being ModeratedSep 30, 2009 1:44 PM (in response to dearlt)Great. Thanks a lot. I were looking for a long time. Really runs!!!iMac, 2,66, 20', Mac OS X (10.5.8)