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New MacBook Pro. Imported all my pictures. It scanned all the faces (2 hours) I started tagging photos (about 100) My library is about 20Gig.

When I go to Faces and click on a name I see the pictures I tagged then
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and the arrow just spins. This happens for everyone. How long should this happen? Is something broken?

MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.5.8)

Posted on Aug 21, 2009 4:18 PM

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Aug 31, 2009 10:44 PM in response to belloq

There is a "rebuild library" function. Is that what you meant to write?


That would be the one.

This will create a new library based on data in the albumdata.xml file. Not everything will be brought over - no slideshows, books or calendars, for instance - but it should get all your albums and keywords back.

Because this process creates an entirely new library and leaves your old one untouched, it is non-destructive, and if you're not happy with the results you can simply return to your old one.

Regards

TD

Aug 31, 2009 10:54 PM in response to Yer_Man

I am in process of rebuilding the library. For one specific reason, I am not holding my breath: I already used iPhoto to create an entirely new library and then imported a few old batches of pictures. It did OK for a while, but after I got to around 500 pictures or so, the "... may also be in the photos below" failed to show matches again and would just spin.

But, if this does work, I will rejoice and sing its praises here on the forum. 🙂

Sep 1, 2009 5:57 AM in response to gerbsen

IT SEEMS TO BE FIXED!!

Using gerbsen's suggestion of rebuilding the library using iPhoto Library Manager ( http://www.fatcatsoftware.com/iplm/), I came back to iPhoto and there were, literally, more than 200 "... may also be in the photos below" just for me in my library. Other people in the family also have a couple hundred listed each.

For the time being, rebuilding the library, which took 4+ hours on a 3.06GHz iMac for 7600 photos, seems to have done the trick. Rebuilding does make an entirely new copy of your library, leaving your original one intact.

What remains to be seen is if iPhoto continues to work as advertised for Faces functionality.

But, if you're looking to get results now and you have the spinning cursor issue, I suggest using the IPLM.

Sep 1, 2009 10:01 AM in response to johnck78

Same problem on 2 computers, both white MacBooks from 1 year ago, running 10.5.8.

Updated iPhoto '08 to iPhoto '09. Identify a few faces. Then select a face and "name", and get the spinner next to "may also be in the photos below". Ran for hours and nothing.

One computer has about 4,000 photos, the other about 17,000 photos.

Apple, how about a fix?

Sep 1, 2009 10:37 AM in response to belloq

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IT SEEMS TO BE FIXED!!

Using gerbsen's suggestion of rebuilding the library using iPhoto Library Manager ( http://www.fatcatsoftware.com/iplm/), I came back to iPhoto and there were, literally, more than 200 "... may also be in the photos below" just for me in my library. Other people in the family also have a couple hundred listed each.

For the time being, rebuilding the library, which took 4+ hours on a 3.06GHz iMac for 7600 photos, seems to have done the trick. Rebuilding does make an entirely new copy of your library, leaving your original one intact.

What remains to be seen is if iPhoto continues to work as advertised for Faces functionality.

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This appears to have worked for me. Need to import some more pictures to be certain but the CPU Spike and spinning arrows are now gone

Sep 1, 2009 7:10 PM in response to johnck78

I also experiencing the problem that after allowing Faces to process all my pictures (15.8k) on a Power Mac G4 (1.2GHz, 1.5 GB RAM, 300GB hard drive with 75 GB free) iPhoto still does not ever find any faces that match even one that I enter-- after letting it look all night.

Initial to faces processing took about 46 hours. I am rebuilding the library and will try again.

Sep 2, 2009 3:55 AM in response to johnck78

johnck78 wrote:
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IT SEEMS TO BE FIXED!!

Using gerbsen's suggestion of rebuilding the library using iPhoto Library Manager ( http://www.fatcatsoftware.com/iplm/), I came back to iPhoto and there were, literally, more than 200 "... may also be in the photos below" just for me in my library. Other people in the family also have a couple hundred listed each.

For the time being, rebuilding the library, which took 4+ hours on a 3.06GHz iMac for 7600 photos, seems to have done the trick. Rebuilding does make an entirely new copy of your library, leaving your original one intact.

What remains to be seen is if iPhoto continues to work as advertised for Faces functionality.

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This appears to have worked for me. Need to import some more pictures to be certain but the CPU Spike and spinning arrows are now gone



I've tried the IPLM rebuild with partial success. While I no longer have the CPU spike and spinning arrows, it appears to me as though the facial matching algorithms are corrupted. I get heaps of "may also be" suggestions that bear absolutely no likeness to the individual. Also, I have a heap of unnamed faces now that it would previously identified with a high success rate (I guess because of distinguishing features such as a moustache etc.), but none show up at all 'may be's.

I'd go so far as to say that since the rebuild I have had near on 100% false recognitions, and a near on 0% positive recognition rate.

At least the system is no longer freezing and I can continue to identify faces manually, but the automatic matching is completely busted.

Sep 2, 2009 4:50 AM in response to paitkenhead

UPDATE: In contradiction to my post above, I just imported a new folder of images into the library and it had an excellent matching rate. I wonder if the previous failure to match faces was because they were unnamed faces in photos in the library when I did the rebuild. Newly imported images have their faces identified with an excellent successful ID rate.

The plot thickens.

Sep 2, 2009 9:14 AM in response to paitkenhead

paitkenhead wrote:
UPDATE: In contradiction to my post above, I just imported a new folder of images into the library and it had an excellent matching rate. I wonder if the previous failure to match faces was because they were unnamed faces in photos in the library when I did the rebuild. Newly imported images have their faces identified with an excellent successful ID rate.

The plot thickens.

Similar to the above, and following up on my previous very positive IPLM report: At first, the match rate was excellent on existing photos. However, after about 50% of the pictures were positively matched, I was Rejecting 90% of the so-called matches. This is all with existing photos in the library. I have not yet attempted to import a new batch of pictures.

Unfortunately, I am seeing that I am not getting matches on nearly 60% of the library pictures. There are A LOT of unnamed faces still in the database, which I see no recourse but to manually tag them and hope that future imports have a better match rate. I am certain that IPLM was a huge part of fixing the initial issues, though, and for that I am grateful and may just pay for the shareware even though I may never use it again. It's good to reward good programming like that.

I agree with the previous poster who mentioned that something still seems wonky with the recognition algorithm because some of the bad matches are REALLY bad, and going through the unnamed faces shows me pictures taken in the same environment, angle, lighting and same person is not recognized. And this is an adult, not a child's face.

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