Overheating causing(?) spinning wheel

The last couple of days I've been debugging why my year-old iMac has been suffering increasingly long bouts (sometimes over a minute) of spinning wheel. I've sort of solved it but was curious since I hadn't read about spinning wheel as a symptom.

* it's definitely heat related as fan control software mitigates it. Ambient air is ~26°C
* in extreme cases the spinning wheel seems to prevent the machine doing anything. After forcing a reboot I've seen the machine not even find the startup disk (flashing "?" folder!)
* ...then booting off install disks the hardware appears as just "Media" - no partition map, nothing
* ...mercifully it came back after a cooling off
* I first used smcFanControl which I see (cautiously) recommended quite a lot here. My experience has been that I prefer "iMac Fan Control" http://www.derman.com/iMac-Fan-Control which is a prefpane and takes over the heat->fan speed controls. It requires a bit of fiddling to find the right slope & intercept but seems to work well. I found with smcFanControl I had to create a bunch of presets and constantly switch between them.
* even when the machine was pretty hammered Exposé almost always still worked (is that an independent GPU function?)

Some questions:

* I still don't know why the wheel is spinning. The Developer tool, "Spin Control" was never catching anything
* These symptoms seem to crush the machine at relatively low temperatures, like >60°C (PSU 1 is 70°C). This has only started happening recently.
* The spinning wheel sometimes even happens when the temperature is <60°C. It seems associated with heavy disk activity (e.g. Time Machine backups) but I'm not 100% sure.

Any insight gratefully accepted, thanks!

iMac Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz, Mac OS X (10.5.8)

Posted on Aug 23, 2009 4:09 PM

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Aug 23, 2009 4:46 PM in response to tantrix

Heavy disk activity always causes the spinning wheel because heavy disk activity demands almost all of the CPU. As for your temperatures they are not excessively high. High temperatures - >90º C - with little or no heavy CPU load might be of concern. But in general you've provided little information to allow diagnosing that a problem even exists.

The spinning wheel might be due to lack of sufficient physical RAM resulting in substantial hard drive activity which in turn will raise the CPU temperature. So it's really impossible to state with any certainty that the observations you've listed are heat related.

You also may have a damaged hard drive that requires repair or reformatting. System corruption resulting from disk corruption could easily cause the problems you may be experiencing.

What does Activity Monitor reveal in terms of the CPU time used by existing processes?

Aug 23, 2009 5:14 PM in response to Kappy

Heavy disk activity should not necessarily require a lot of CPU; that's what DMA is for. Time Machine hasn't been particularly demanding in any case. The key point to understand here is the machine's usage hasn't changed and this syndrome has manifested in the last week.

It's definitely heat related. It happens when the machine gets too hot and recovers when I spin the fan up or let the machine cool off (sleep, or shutdown). With fan control the machine continues more or less happily; without it'll grind to a halt.

Activity Monitor reveals negligible CPU usage by any processes. This spinning wheel will eventually happen on the machine with very little happening (Mailplane, couple of undemanding Safari tabs).

My very first gut reaction was drive issues. Unfortunately I'm struggling to see a way to verify this - I was hoping to see what bad block allocation etc is but don't know how. Ideas? I'm about to try Drive Genius to do an exhaustive scan. Better/other ideas welcome...

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