Panasonic DVX100A Problems

I have just bought a new Panasonic DVX100A camcorder. And I love to shoot in 24p. It's the whole reason I bought the camera in the first place. Thing is. I get the footage into FCE HD and when I play it back. The audio is completely out of sync with the video. I know I cannot edit 24p. And I don't care about that. I just want to be able to edit it normally. And then output it with 24p like I always thought I could. Anyone have any answers for me as to why it would be out of sync. Is it that FCE HD does not like 24p at all maybe? I just don't know what to do. I just bought this brand new camera and I can't edit its footage. Can someone please, please help me!!! Any comments or answers will be very, very much appreciated. Thank you so much...

Posted on Sep 16, 2005 9:10 AM

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Sep 18, 2005 5:10 AM in response to Tom Wolsky

Hi Mr. Wolsky. I was so hoping you'd answer me. I've read your book and alot of your answers on this message board. Anyway, I used Scene File number 5 on the Panasonic DVX100A, which is standard 24p. (Not the advanced 24p) And I used the 48khz sampling rate. Which is the factory setting on the DVX100A. Also, it was the first tape I used so it only had 24p on it. No plain 60i with it. But I did try it with the scene file that has regular 60i and used the 48khz sampling rate with it too. And had the same exact problem. In FCE HD, I believe I used the DV NTSC Firewire basic EASY Setup. I also let FCE create a custom easy setup that was pretty similar to the firewire basic one. And I also had the same problems. I had a Sony Z1U and everything ran perfectly smooth using FCE. Both with HDV, and DVCAM and DV/SP. Umm...I'm really pretty new at all this. I had no problems with the Sony camera when it came to this. So I never really tweaked any settings. Let me know if there is another setting you need to know about. I can't think of any others to tell you. Something I did notice was that, I'm pretty sure anyway, that the audio is out of sync by somewhere between 20 and 28 frames. I traded in my Sony for the Panasonic because I wanted so much to use the 24p. And I only have another 2 days to return the Panasonic if I need too. But I really don't want too. To be honest, I got into all this because editing is by far my favorite part of movie-making. It's something that I want to do for a living if I can eventually. So I really, really want to find out what is wrong. I hope to God it's something I can fix. Thank you so very much in advance for any answers or advice you can give me.......

Sep 19, 2005 6:09 AM in response to Tom Wolsky

Hey. About 20 minutes ago I put in some new clips I shot. I used normal firewire like you said. And I also tried the 32khz sampling rate just in case. Same thing. Audio completely out of sync. I thought MAYBE I could just edit like this anyway. But I put in 3 less than one minute clips and OMG it took me soo long. It's just so stupid. I can't edit trying to resync every darn clip with its audio. The return policy calls for 7 days and tomorrow morning is my 7 days. I just don't know what to do. I so wanted to use this camera. And the audio is in sync when I plug the camera into my TV using audio/video cables. It's just fine then. But as soon as I put it into my Mac it's just out of wack. And I love to edit. This is a big problem for me. Does anybody have a Panasonic DVX100A who also edits on Final Cut Express HD??? I just can't figure this out. These cameras are driving me crazy!!! Any other suggestions anyone? I could really use the help A.S.A.P. Thanks.......

Sep 19, 2005 6:47 AM in response to BareKnuckled

What computer are you using? It looks like you have two listed.

How is the camera connected to the computer? Any external drives or devices or networking?

Trash your preferences. Reboot the computer with a camera connected and turned on in VCR. Play the tape. What's the view screen say the sampling rate is? It'll tell you in the display. It'll also tell you if the format of the material and shooting rate.

Launch FCE. Not a project. Pick the setting that conforms to the material on the tape. Open the capture window. Set the reel number and type in Clip 1 into the description. Roll at least 10 seconds into the tape. Mark an In point. Roll forward 10 seconds assuming there's no TC break. Mark an Out point. Press the clip button. What exactly happens after that.

Sep 19, 2005 6:56 AM in response to Tom Wolsky

O.K. I'm gonna do that now. I only have one computer. It's an about 6 month old Powerbook G4. I have a LaCie big disk 500GB hard drive connected and nothing else. No speakers and no monitors. Just the hard-drive.

You want me to trash the preferences. Where are the preferences located again? I did it before but I forget. Turn on the camera and leave it in VCR mode and reboot the computer. And where will it tell me the sampling rate? What display? On the camera?

Sep 19, 2005 7:50 AM in response to Tom Wolsky

O.K. I did what you said. And the audio SEEMS to be in sync for the 10 second clip. Which is great and all. But after that I used the "Now" button in the capture window to capture the rest of the 1 minute or less tape. And the audio is so completely out of sync again. Do you know what is wrong??? How come when I did what you said with the in and out points and the 10 seconds was it in sync? I used the capture 'now' button all the time with my other camera and NEVER used the 'clip' button or in and out points to capture. And it was always completely fine. I never used the 'clip' button because it took too long and I dont' have a deck so I didn't wanna wear down the heads anymore than I needed too.

I called the place I got my camcorder from but no one would help me. Oh my Lord. I am so lost. HELP ME MR. WOLSKY!!!!!!!

Sep 19, 2005 10:06 AM in response to BareKnuckled

Is the camera daisy-chained through the drive? If Now doesn't work, use Clip. If you want to capture a whole tape (not recommended) mark an in point at the beginning and an Out at the end and press clip. Make sure there are no timecode breaks. Capturing big chunk the wear on the camera is not that much greater than capturing with now.

The format and sampling rate will display in the view screen of the camera. Make sure it matches what you're doing.

Sep 19, 2005 10:36 AM in response to Tom Wolsky

No my camera is not daisy chained at all. Straight through the Mac into the drive. I've tried it a few more times now and it seems that the 'clip' button works most every time. But capture 'now' does not work at all. The audio is just so out of sync when I use that one.

Are you sure that the wear isn't that much worse when capturing a clip at a time? Because it has to do all that rewinding and fast-forwarding and stopping and what-not...And I don't have a deck and I'm terrified that this 'way-out-of-my-price-range' camera is gonna get all messed up fairly quickly...And if it's anywhere within the next 5 years. Then it is WAY too soon...LOL...

If you could find out why the capture 'clip' button works and not capture 'now' that would be a great help. Let other people know about the 'clip' button too. I saw some other message boards with people having the same problems with there canon XL2's...But I just want that capture 'now' button to work soo badly. It made my life so much easier and made my work get done so much faster. But anyway, I've been up all night now. Let me take the time to personally thank you Mr. Tom Wolsky for repeatedly coming back and helping me. You are a class-act my friend. Thank you so much. I'll check this message board again tonight. See if anyone has any updates 'cause tomorrow is the return day on the camera. AAAHHH!!!! Anyway, thanks again.......

Sep 19, 2005 10:41 AM in response to BareKnuckled

Also, like I said before, I am fairly new at all of this. Not JUST with my new camera. But with Final Cut Express too. You said I can add an 'in' point in the beginning and an 'out' point at the end and just hit the 'clip' button to capture the whole tape. "But make sure there are no time-code breaks." or no breaks in the time-code. In any case, what exactly is a time-code break. I know what time-code is. But what exactly is a break in the timecode??? And how do I know if it's there and how do I get around one and so on?? Thanks again.......

Sep 19, 2005 11:24 AM in response to BareKnuckled

"No my camera is not daisy chained at all. Straight through the Mac into the drive."

Eh?? Straight through the Mac into the drive? You mean the camera is capturing to the the internal drive? Is the LaCie connected while you're doing this? Try capturing with the LaCie disconnected. Or try capturing with the camera connected to the drive and the drive connected to the computer.

Any camera is going to be obsolete in five years. Probably the DV format will be obsolete long before then.

Sep 20, 2005 11:11 AM in response to Tom Wolsky

No, I meant the LaCie drive is connected to my Mac via firewire 800 and the camcorder is connected via firewire 400 to the Mac as well. Straight into the Mac and into the LaCie drive I meant.

But anyway, the people at the store where I bought my camera gave me an extra 7 days to see if I like it or not. I figure if the audio and video are in sync when I use the 'clip' button than that's O.K. I guess. But now, I just outputted for the first time onto DVD, and 'oh boy' was I surprised. I was guaranteed that the picture would look just as great when I output to DVD as it does when I hook the camcorder straight up into the TV. Everyone guaranteed me that, Apple, Panasonic...and the store I got the DVX from. But now when I outputted the picture looks so incredibly stuttery its crazy. The motion definately does not look smooth like 24p is supposed to look like. And definately not like what it looks like when I hook the camcorder straight to the TV. So I thought I'd ask you since you wrote the book on FCE. What settings should I use to output to DVD??? DVD is really the only way I like to output my work. At this time anyway. I tried a different setting than the one I had originally tried, and, it was VIDEO I believe and it said it would Key frame every 24 frames. When I watched the DVD the picture looked really smooth again and I was pretty happy...But, this time. The picture had big 'ol pixels. Almost looked mosaic in a way. I just can't figure out how to output my 24p footage from FCE HD to make it look just as great as it did when I watched it on my TV from the mini-dv.......What settings do I use??? I figured you were definately the guy to ask when it came to this. And if anyone else knows. Please, by all means...Any help would be soooo greatly appreciated. I feel like I'm at my wits end here. Thanks.......

Sep 20, 2005 11:41 AM in response to BareKnuckled

24p is not supposed to look smooth. The low temporal resolution produces the stuttering. That's the "feature" of film-look with 3:2 pulldown. The other problem is that material is being compressed to MPEG-2, which doesn't lend itself to smooth motion.

What are you using to make the DVD? That will determine how the material should be encoded. Export to QuickTime Movie. iDVD will do the encoding, or take it to Compressor or a third party encoder to make the MPEG-2.

The configuration is not good for capturing with separate devices in two ports on the same bus. You should try daisy-chaining the camera to the drive.

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