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Time machine back up slow

installed SL today time machine is backing up as i type, i thought that it was supposed to back up quicker, it seems slower if anything

Mac Pro, Mac OS X (10.6)

Posted on Aug 28, 2009 2:40 PM

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Aug 29, 2009 1:27 PM in response to krojo

Hello k:

Just out of curiosity, what are you talking about?

Now I am doing my first restore and it is taking a very long time. First to find the file and now to restore. Something is not quite right. Another failure of by Apple to fully test before rushing SL to market.



What are you attempting to do? Very few of us have an immediate requirement to restore anything immediately.

Another failure of by Apple to fully test before rushing SL to market.


Apple hardly rushed anything to market. OS X 10.6 was announced eons ago. A whole bunch of people have been beta testing the software. A review of the forums indicates that OS X 10.6 has been a good software release. The problems noted are traced to other issues - not the OS X 10.6 release.

Barry

Aug 29, 2009 2:00 PM in response to steveaps

I am having the exact same problem...only I've received several errors during backup that state the disk was "improperly ejected."

I've tried several times restarting, and the backup is extremely slow. Interestingly enough, I've now started having all kinds of problems...Final Cut hanging when launched, etc..

Going to proceed with D2 solutions as recommended above. Problem is I have one of those "Drobo" disks, so I'll be curious to see how some of the recommendations to repair go with that disk.

Aug 29, 2009 3:23 PM in response to steveaps

I was having the same issue, i followed the #d2 tip by setting the spotlight privacy setting and then i also uninstalled sophos antivirus (it was also not working properly, kept complaining that it couldnt update with an unspecified error)

after looking around online i'm fairly certain antivirus software causes the issues, http://snowleopard.wikidot.com/ says that norton and sophos are both not working properly with 10.6

hope that helps

Aug 29, 2009 3:34 PM in response to kmcq

kmcq wrote:
I was having the same issue, i followed the #d2 tip by setting the spotlight privacy setting and then i also uninstalled sophos antivirus (it was also not working properly, kept complaining that it couldnt update with an unspecified error)

after looking around online i'm fairly certain antivirus software causes the issues, http://snowleopard.wikidot.com/ says that norton and sophos are both not working properly with 10.6


I don't run either, but everything I've ever read on these forums says Norton anti-virus is worse than a virus, which is kind of funny since there are no Mac viruses! If you're worried about passing a Windoze virus to your PC friends, get the free ClamXav. According to the wiki post, there's a beta already for SL.

Aug 29, 2009 8:57 PM in response to Pondini

Tried the remaining options:

Removed the exclusion and re-added it. Could tell that removing the exclusion really did enable it as spotlight went into indexing mode the minute I removed the exclusion, and stopped just as soon as I added it back.

+Repair Disk+ said there was all fine, and had nothing to repair.

It is a WD drive, but there is no firmware upgrade for this model (WD2500D032).

So, I think that rules out everything in #D2.... Yet, the backups are still intensely slow. Fie!

Aug 30, 2009 8:49 AM in response to MtnViewMark

MtnViewMark wrote:
Tried the remaining options:

Removed the exclusion and re-added it. Could tell that removing the exclusion really did enable it as spotlight went into indexing mode the minute I removed the exclusion, and stopped just as soon as I added it back.

+Repair Disk+ said there was all fine, and had nothing to repair.

It is a WD drive, but there is no firmware upgrade for this model (WD2500D032).

So, I think that rules out everything in #D2.... Yet, the backups are still intensely slow. Fie!


Let's take a look at your logs. There may be a clue in some other messages. Use the Console app (in your Applications/Utilities folder).

When it starts, click +*Show Log List+* in the toolbar, then navigate in the sidebar that opens up to your system.log and select it. That will open your current log at the end (bottom). Scroll upwards to the date and time of the most recent of these slow backups.

All the messages from TM backups will be sent by the backupd process, which will be just before the Process ID (the number enclosed in square brackets).

Each backup run will have a different Process ID, and the first or second message will be "Starting standard backup."

Most of the messages you'll see are status and info for developers, so you may have to slog through a fair amount of extraneous stuff.

What you're looking for is anything like *failed, exited abnormally, exited with code, throttling respawn, error,* and especially *I/O error.*

If you see anything like that, or anything else that seems suspicious, copy and post a reasonable amount of it here.

Aug 30, 2009 1:47 PM in response to MtnViewMark

I erased my time machine drive - because it couldn't combine the old data with the new HD. No problems. Start a new backup = SLOW. here's the console log:

29/08/09 7:15:01 PM com.apple.backupd[7253] Starting standard backup
29/08/09 7:15:09 PM com.apple.backupd[7253] Backing up to: /Volumes/Mattski500/Backups.backupdb
29/08/09 7:15:10 PM com.apple.backupd[7253] Detected system migration from: /Volumes/Mattski500/Backups.backupdb/MattBook/2009-08-29-024306/MacBookPro
29/08/09 7:15:21 PM com.apple.backupd[7253] Backup content size: 179.1 GB excluded items size: 9.5 GB for volume MacBookPro
29/08/09 7:15:21 PM com.apple.backupd[7253] No pre-backup thinning needed: 204.79 GB requested (including padding), 212.36 GB available
29/08/09 8:15:11 PM com.apple.backupd[7253] Copied 10.2 GB of 169.6 GB, 7804 of 1502626 items
29/08/09 9:15:11 PM com.apple.backupd[7253] Copied 12.3 GB of 169.6 GB, 15888 of 1502626 items
29/08/09 10:15:12 PM com.apple.backupd[7253] Copied 16.0 GB of 169.6 GB, 16700 of 1502626 items
29/08/09 11:15:12 PM com.apple.backupd[7253] Copied 17.4 GB of 169.6 GB, 26237 of 1502626 items
30/08/09 12:15:12 AM com.apple.backupd[7253] Copied 18.7 GB of 169.6 GB, 71519 of 1502626 items
30/08/09 1:15:13 AM com.apple.backupd[7253] Copied 23.4 GB of 169.6 GB, 99607 of 1502626 items
30/08/09 2:15:14 AM com.apple.backupd[7253] Copied 30.3 GB of 169.6 GB, 112358 of 1502626 items
30/08/09 3:15:14 AM com.apple.backupd[7253] Copied 36.1 GB of 169.6 GB, 125770 of 1502626 items
30/08/09 4:15:15 AM com.apple.backupd[7253] Copied 38.2 GB of 169.6 GB, 160636 of 1502626 items
30/08/09 5:15:16 AM com.apple.backupd[7253] Copied 43.2 GB of 169.6 GB, 175095 of 1502626 items
30/08/09 6:15:17 AM com.apple.backupd[7253] Copied 45.2 GB of 169.6 GB, 189965 of 1502626 items
30/08/09 7:15:17 AM com.apple.backupd[7253] Copied 46.7 GB of 169.6 GB, 213777 of 1502626 items
30/08/09 8:15:18 AM com.apple.backupd[7253] Copied 47.1 GB of 169.6 GB, 288288 of 1502626 items
30/08/09 9:15:18 AM com.apple.backupd[7253] Copied 48.5 GB of 169.6 GB, 336746 of 1502626 items
30/08/09 10:15:19 AM com.apple.backupd[7253] Copied 50.4 GB of 169.6 GB, 352332 of 1502626 items
30/08/09 11:15:20 AM com.apple.backupd[7253] Copied 57.4 GB of 169.6 GB, 363639 of 1502626 items
30/08/09 12:15:20 PM com.apple.backupd[7253] Copied 58.5 GB of 169.6 GB, 386480 of 1502626 items
30/08/09 1:15:21 PM com.apple.backupd[7253] Copied 59.8 GB of 169.6 GB, 412356 of 1502626 items
30/08/09 2:15:22 PM com.apple.backupd[7253] Copied 61.0 GB of 169.6 GB, 435309 of 1502626 items
30/08/09 3:15:23 PM com.apple.backupd[7253] Copied 62.2 GB of 169.6 GB, 464146 of 1502626 items
30/08/09 4:15:23 PM com.apple.backupd[7253] Copied 65.9 GB of 169.6 GB, 485498 of 1502626 items
30/08/09 5:15:23 PM com.apple.backupd[7253] Copied 82.4 GB of 169.6 GB, 489045 of 1502626 items
30/08/09 6:15:25 PM com.apple.backupd[7253] Copied 100.3 GB of 169.6 GB, 491058 of 1502626 items
30/08/09 7:15:26 PM com.apple.backupd[7253] Copied 110.3 GB of 169.6 GB, 493059 of 1502626 items
30/08/09 8:15:26 PM com.apple.backupd[7253] Copied 119.9 GB of 169.6 GB, 493059 of 1502626 items
30/08/09 9:15:27 PM com.apple.backupd[7253] Copied 135.1 GB of 169.6 GB, 493059 of 1502626 items
30/08/09 10:15:28 PM com.apple.backupd[7253] Copied 148.6 GB of 169.6 GB, 493059 of 1502626 items
30/08/09 11:15:28 PM com.apple.backupd[7253] Copied 152.6 GB of 169.6 GB, 509372 of 1502626 items
31/08/09 12:15:29 AM com.apple.backupd[7253] Copied 153.3 GB of 169.6 GB, 534726 of 1502626 items
31/08/09 1:15:29 AM com.apple.backupd[7253] Copied 153.7 GB of 169.6 GB, 550336 of 1502626 items
31/08/09 2:15:29 AM com.apple.backupd[7253] Copied 155.3 GB of 169.6 GB, 562214 of 1502626 items
31/08/09 3:15:30 AM com.apple.backupd[7253] Copied 156.4 GB of 169.6 GB, 573554 of 1502626 items
31/08/09 4:15:30 AM com.apple.backupd[7253] Copied 157.5 GB of 169.6 GB, 584987 of 1502626 items
31/08/09 5:15:31 AM com.apple.backupd[7253] Copied 157.8 GB of 169.6 GB, 594213 of 1502626 items
31/08/09 5:26:04 AM com.apple.backupd[7253] CoreEndianFlipData: error -4940 returned for rsrc type FREF (id 133, length 7, native = no)
31/08/09 5:26:04 AM com.apple.backupd[7253] CoreEndianFlipData: error -4940 returned for rsrc type FREF (id 133, length 7, native = no)
31/08/09 5:28:49 AM com.apple.backupd[7253] CoreEndianFlipData: error -4940 returned for rsrc type FREF (id 129, length 7, native = no)
31/08/09 5:28:52 AM com.apple.backupd[7253] CoreEndianFlipData: error -4940 returned for rsrc type FREF (id 129, length 7, native = no)
31/08/09 6:15:32 AM com.apple.backupd[7253] Copied 158.9 GB of 169.6 GB, 613142 of 1502626 items


48 hours and it's still not finished - although close now.

My hard drive is attached by firewire, and at a respectable transfer rate of 10MB/s = (36GB/hr) this should have taken a respectable 5 hours. I know my firewire drive can in fact sustain much higher than 10MB/s, so this baffles me as to why it's getting an average rate less than 1MB/sec. Grrrrr.

Aug 30, 2009 1:56 PM in response to Matthew Connolly3

Matthew Connolly3 wrote:
I erased my time machine drive - because it couldn't combine the old data with the new HD. No problems. Start a new backup = SLOW. here's the console log:
. . .
48 hours and it's still not finished - although close now.

My hard drive is attached by firewire, and at a respectable transfer rate of 10MB/s = (36GB/hr) this should have taken a respectable 5 hours. I know my firewire drive can in fact sustain much higher than 10MB/s, so this baffles me as to why it's getting an average rate less than 1MB/sec. Grrrrr.


Everything in the log is normal, other than the last +Core Endian+ messages, which don't seem to have had much impact.

There are, unfortunately, a whole passel of things that can cause slow backups. Have you done all the things suggested in earlier posts in this thread? Please advise what you've done and the results.

Aug 30, 2009 2:47 PM in response to Pondini

I'm using Time Machine with a Time Capsule and Snow Leopard 10.6. On my MacBook, it works as fast as it worked before the upgrade from Leopard to Snow Leopard. My iMac hast several networking problems with Snow Leopard, the Time Machine backup is too slow such as any other data transfer from my Time Capsule to my iMac.

Aug 30, 2009 8:55 PM in response to Pondini

Pondini wrote:
Everything in the log is normal, other than the last +Core Endian+ messages, which don't seem to have had much impact.


Everything in the log is normal??

What part of copying only 1GB in an hour is normal?

And why is it that after 40-odd hours, it's only copied a third of the files that it needs to?

I'm going to leave it running until it finishes. Then I'll check the other settings.

-Matt

Aug 30, 2009 9:08 PM in response to Matthew Connolly3

Matthew Connolly3 wrote:
Pondini wrote:
Everything in the log is normal, other than the last +Core Endian+ messages, which don't seem to have had much impact.


Everything in the log is normal??


Yes. There are no error or warning messages being sent by Time Machine.

What part of copying only 1GB in an hour is normal?

And why is it that after 40-odd hours, it's only copied a third of the files that it needs to?

I'm going to leave it running until it finishes. Then I'll check the other settings.


Please calm down. Try to remember that we are all just other users -- unpaid volunteers trying to help.

If you do the things recommended in the previous posts, you may be able to figure it out. One of those will see if there are clues in any messages sent by other processes (the instructions above to use the Console app).

If not, report back, detailing what you've done and the results so we can try to help.

Aug 31, 2009 12:33 AM in response to steveaps

I've just finished the initial backup - took me just over 24 hours. After 18 hours, it had still only completed about a sixth, and at this point I uninstalled Sophos antivirus (whose auto-udpate application is incompatible with Snow Leopard anyhow), and the backup sped up somewhat. Can't say for sure this was the cause though, as I often find that time machine backups can tend to speed up significantly by themselves.

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