The application Finder.app can't be opened.

Thanks! Now why didn't I think of that?

Anyway, I did that and it's now reindexing - only taking it about 15 min. on my boot drive since all my data is elsewhere. It will get interesting when I reactivate indexing on my 8TB Drobo.

But I must admit that I've had little problem since installing 10.6.3 The update must have done something to help alleviate the problem.

My thanks to all who have offered their experience and advice here!

Message was edited by: Denny Granger

I've just had another 10810 hang/crash/reboot, this time when installing VirtualBox from a package. I'll describe it here in case it matches what anyone else has seen. I don't think it's VirtualBox that's the problem, but something related to the installer itself (the last time I got the 10810 thing it was using the Software Update to update iTunes and iPhoto, which uses the installer as well presumably).

The install worked fine, but as it finished it triggered the 10810 crash. Same symptoms as usual, same hard reboot.

Here's the log:

02/04/2010 10:44:42 Installer[4668] @(#)PROGRAM:Install PROJECT:Install-580
02/04/2010 10:44:42 Installer[4668] @(#)PROGRAM:Installer PROJECT:Installer-430.1
02/04/2010 10:44:42 Installer[4668] Hardware: iMac11,1 @ 2.80 GHz (x 8), 4096 MB RAM
02/04/2010 10:44:42 Installer[4668] Running OS Build: Mac OS X 10.6.3 (10D573)
02/04/2010 10:44:43 Installer[4668] Sun VirtualBox Installation Log
02/04/2010 10:44:43 Installer[4668] Opened from: /Volumes/VirtualBox/VirtualBox.mpkg
02/04/2010 10:44:53 Installer[4668] <ZeroSliderSplitView: 0x11704e630>: the delegate <TargetSelectPage: 0x11702b7e0> was sent -splitView:resizeSubviewsWithOldSize: and left the subview frames in an inconsistent state:
02/04/2010 10:44:53 Installer[4668] Split view bounds: {{0, 0}, {402, 104}}
02/04/2010 10:44:53 Installer[4668] Subview frame: {{0, 0}, {0, 32}}
02/04/2010 10:44:53 Installer[4668] Subview frame: {{0, 0}, {402, 104}}
02/04/2010 10:44:53 Installer[4668] The outer edges of the subview frames are supposed to line up with the split view's bounds' edges. NSSplitView is working around the problem, perhaps at the cost of more redrawing. (This message is only logged once per NSSplitView.)
02/04/2010 10:45:00 com.apple.launchd.peruser.502[824] (com.apple.pbs) Throttling respawn: Will start in 10 seconds
02/04/2010 10:45:10 com.apple.launchd.peruser.502[824] (com.apple.pbs) Throttling respawn: Will start in 10 seconds
02/04/2010 10:45:19 Installer[4668] =============================================================================== =
02/04/2010 10:45:19 Installer[4668] User picked Standard Install
02/04/2010 10:45:19 Installer[4668] Choices selected for installation:
02/04/2010 10:45:19 Installer[4668] Upgrade: "Sun VirtualBox"
02/04/2010 10:45:19 Installer[4668] Upgrade: "Sun VirtualBox Kernel Extensions"
02/04/2010 10:45:19 Installer[4668] Upgrade: "Sun VirtualBox Startup Items"
02/04/2010 10:45:19 Installer[4668] Upgrade: "Sun VirtualBox"
02/04/2010 10:45:19 Installer[4668] Upgrade: "Sun VirtualBox Command Line Utilities"
02/04/2010 10:45:19 Installer[4668] =============================================================================== =
02/04/2010 10:45:20 Installer[4668] Configuring volume "Macintosh HD"
02/04/2010 10:45:20 Installer[4668] Free space on "Macintosh HD": 830.84 GB (830835011584 bytes).
02/04/2010 10:45:20 Installer[4668] Create temporary directory "/var/folders/Cc/CcGA7vWEHZOt3jjqLx0wZE +TM/-Tmp-//Install.4668Sy4j3P"
02/04/2010 10:45:20 Installer[4668] IFPKInstallElement (4 packages)
02/04/2010 10:45:20 installd[4694] PackageKit: ----- Begin install -----
02/04/2010 10:45:48 installd[4694] Installed "Sun VirtualBox" ()
02/04/2010 10:45:48 installd[4694] PackageKit: ----- End install -----
02/04/2010 10:45:48 Installer[4668] Running install actions
02/04/2010 10:45:48 Installer[4668] Removing temporary directory "/var/folders/Cc/CcGA7vWEHZOt3jjqLx0wZE +TM/-Tmp-//Install.4668Sy4j3P"
02/04/2010 10:45:48 Installer[4668] Finalize disk "Macintosh HD"
02/04/2010 10:45:48 Installer[4668] Notifying system of updated components
02/04/2010 10:45:49 Installer[4668]
02/04/2010 10:45:49 Installer[4668] ** Summary Information **
02/04/2010 10:45:49 Installer[4668] Operation Elapsed time
02/04/2010 10:45:49 Installer[4668] -----------------------------
02/04/2010 10:45:49 Installer[4668] disk 0.03 seconds
02/04/2010 10:45:49 Installer[4668] script 0.06 seconds
02/04/2010 10:45:49 Installer[4668] zero 0.02 seconds
02/04/2010 10:45:49 Installer[4668] install 28.13 seconds
02/04/2010 10:45:49 Installer[4668] -total- 28.24 seconds
02/04/2010 10:45:49 Installer[4668]
02/04/2010 10:45:49 Installer[4668] IFDInstallController 17010AF0 state = 5
02/04/2010 10:45:49 Installer[4668] Displaying 'Install Succeeded' UI.

Then immediately after that the coreservicesd daemon crashes and the problems rapidly start:

02/04/2010 10:45:58 loginwindow[1194] CarbonCore.framework: coreservicesd process died; attempting to reconnect but future use may result in erroneous behavior.
02/04/2010 10:45:58 loginwindow[807] CarbonCore.framework: coreservicesd process died; attempting to reconnect but future use may result in erroneous behavior.
02/04/2010 10:45:58 com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.coreservicesd[53]) Job appears to have crashed: Segmentation fault
02/04/2010 10:45:58 installd[4694] CarbonCore.framework: coreservicesd process died; attempting to reconnect but future use may result in erroneous behavior.

which is followed by about 100 more lines of the same kind of thing before the reboot. Interestingly, you can see the installer removed temporary directories under /var/folders towards the end of the install process, just before the crash.

I'll try to do the reinstall with the /var/folders directory renamed and see if that fixes it.

I just re-installed VirtualBox from the mpkg file twice and each time it caused the 10810 problem and I had to do a hard reboot. So, it's a consistent and reproducible crash.

I then remove /var/folders, then did a reboot (which took a bit longer that normal). After the reboot I did the reinstall of VirtualBox as before and no crash. The logs look clean as well.

So, hopefully this really is the end of the crashes, at least for me. Hopefully everyone else getting them can find a a solution, even if it's not this one.

And a big thanks to jevlewt for suggesting the /var/folders idea, you've saved me a lot hassle and stress (fingers crossed the problem doesn't recur).

Sadly I moved /var/folders to /tmp then did a reboot, forgetting that the reboot deletes the contents of /tmp. So, I can't go and look at the files in there to find out more about the problem or what triggered it.

To anyone else with the problem, try this from the Terminal (you'll need to be an admin user):

sudo mv /var/folders /var/folders.backup

that should be better than deleting it in case you need to get it back for whatever reason (or just want to examine the files later). You can then delete /var/folders.backup later to recover the space once you're confident you don't need it.

Give thanks to jitterysquid for the var/folders fix; I took the idea from his post somewhere up there.

Glad to hear that the fix is working for some people! For what it's worth, Spotlight is still going strong for me, and no return of the 10810 yet...

Personally, after having this problem, I tried the var/folders trick and it didn't work. What did work for me however was the following:

Open Terminal
At the $ prompt type "/System/Library/CoreServices/Finder.app/Contents/MacOS/Finder &" without quotes

Now Finder is working again! Success!

I just want to add something here.... I installed 10.6.3, going from 10.6.1 (I skipped 10.6.2)....

And for the last 2 days (I know this will be the kiss of death....) I have not had a single hiccup.

No finder errors.... on hanging....no inaccesible drives.... nothing.

I imagine spotlight indexing is on....because I never turned it off.

So.... *10.6.3 SOLVED MY ISSUES !!* (which were occurring with the frequency of 7 times a day) !


PS: as soon as I finish "sending" this post..... I fully expect to have a Finder Error.... so.. dont be envious !

PS: any other "success stories" ?

I thought this issue was in the past for me, but after installing 10.6.3 and upgrading to 8GB it is at least a BI-HOURLY occurrence requiring a hard reboot. Productivity has become an impossibility.

What is happening!?!? I've never been more frustrated with my Mac before EVER. This problem is in dire need of being addressed.

If it's happening bi-hourly then it's chance for you to debug the situation. Do you have any external devices? Have you clearer out /var/folders/ ? Do you have any non-apple extensions? Have you cleared out the caches?

I'd try clearing out /var/folders first and then restarting.

$ cd /var/
$ sudo tar cf folders.tar folders <-- -- this creates a backup
$ sudo rm -r /var/folders
Restart

I receive the same error (-10810) when attempting to relaunch Finder after it has frozen. The process is always the same, but it may not happen every time this is done.

1. Plug in external drive formatted as FAT32 (formatting done in Disk Utility; can be any number of my drives - USB memory sticks or external drives connected via USB or Firewire).
2. Finder freezes when I attempt to open the mounted disk (Finder has never frozen when using HFS+ formatted drives, only FAT32).
3. Relaunch Finder.
4. Finder will not relaunch (no desktop icons, no Finder windows, etc.).
5. Click Finder - encounter -10810 error.
6. Computer can no longer be normally restarted and will require hard reboot.

This occurs on 10.6.3 and 10.6.2. I've rebuilt the Time Machine/Spotlight index to no change (have to do it after nearly every forced restart since Time Machine no longer backs up many folders of changed files, plus I have to do a Disk Repair since it fails when checked).

Sadly, whereas I thought my problem solved, 10810 reared its ugly head yet again yesterday. I was trying to move a 110GB iPhoto library from one daisy chained FW400 drive to another. I had Spotlight disabled on both. As soon as my MBP went into sleep mode, Finder crashed with Coreservices errors. This time, I could not even launch Terminal. Removing the offending external HDD's did not help as it usually does and I had to do a force power off. As is not unusual, there were disc errors after this, so I had to do an HDD repair. The only way I could achieve the transfer was to disable sleep. Very disappointing and a staggeringly poor job by Apple on solving this horrible issue.

Wilson

* UPDATE : On PROBLEM BEING SOLVED after 10.6.3 UPDATE*

I just want to update everyone, as I have long experienced the frustration of the Finder error, repeatedly, and I opened a couple of cases with apple and sent numerous feedbacks as encouraged by Wilson and others.

EVERYTHING IS WORKING PERFECTLY (for me), I have a Western Digital My Passport 500gb drive, attached to my cinema display USB port, which is attached to the display and usb port of my MBA (latest version)

I HAVE NOT HAD TO FORCE A SHUTDOWN, or UNPLUG (force disconnect) my HARD DRIVE once...since upgrading a couple of days ago. Computer goes to sleep, wakes, goes to sleep, wakes up etc...etc... no issus whatsoever.

I am writing this in the hopes something may be gleaned from my experience (not to gloat). And I know everyone's setup, and experience is different.

*The only thing I can think of that MAY be helpful is:* I never upgraded from 10.6.1 to 10.6.2 in fact, I didnt do a single UPDATE since having 10.6.1. until now... so itunes, keyboard firmware, security updates...all done at once when upgrading to 10.6.3.

+I wish others would confirm in this thread whether the update has made a difference or not. It would be very helpful for others to know that it did make a difference, even though, I am sure, along with that, will come the frustration of some not having similar experiences+

-Alf

I've just encountered the -10810 error with 10.6.3. I believe it was triggered by mounting an FTP volume.

The error I receive is likely connected to bug #7264809 (they reported it as a duplicate linked to this original number). If reporting issues using Feedback or Bug Reporter, please reference this bug number so they can pool together all reports. Maybe it can be finally fixed in 10.6.4.

I got the same error:

*The application Finder.app can't be opened.*
-10810

I was downloading from the internet while Time Machine was running. I made the mistake of selecting the Time Machine backup disk on the finder window. Finder locked up and I had to force quit.

Anyway, I wasn't able to startup the finder app at all because I kept getting the message above.

I happened to read someone's post here about running the mount command and finding an old mount of a Windows system that wasn't running.

Anyway, I brought up the terminal app window and typed "mount" to see what was mounted. Suddenly, a finder window pop'ed up and things are back to normal.

Maybe if you just bring up a terminal window and type the "mount" command it will unlock things for you (like it did for me).

Message was edited by: kae

I was experiencing many of the symptoms described in this thread. I noticed that a recurring theme in the posts related to Time Machine. I too had Time Machine running. So, I simply turned Time Machine off. My problems went away. No more frozen finder and other apps with the spinning beach ball. Everything worked OK. So, I reformatted my external drive (losing my back up in the process) and deleted the TimeMachine.plist file from the MacIntosh HD/Library/Preferences folder. Then I rebooted and set Time Machine up fresh as if it were the first time. I made sure that the Bootcamp volume was excluded from the backups. Then I let Time Machine do a complete back up. Now everything is running smoothly. No more crashes.