Altered Font Spacing Crippling for Designers

Agree with you, fonts completely reflowed. Suitcase Fusion 2 not being compatible yet (30 days allegedly) means there's no obvious way to replace dodgy system font maps, such as Helvetica Neue, with nice clean Adobe ones. Impossible for designers - complete waste of time and money so far.

I had exactly the same situation. All documents in Quark have reflowed due to irregular spacing on fonts. I have also reverted to 10.5.8.

Why would they do this??

Yep, right where is hurts. Quark has a whole other set of trouble. Restoring back to leopard. Thanks Apple for a couple of wasted days.

Are you using Suitcase?

I removed the Fusion core out of the preference pane as console was throwing up lots of suitcase errors. Helped a little.

Have you found that Quark 8 looses it normal postscript PPDs export for distiller and the colour profiles have gone. Now updating pictures renders the pics in a different colour space. I had to re download ICC colour profiles and then link them into Quark.

I've rolled back to Leopard on one mac, nice to back to normal on that one, just like the last couple of days didn't happen.

Noticed that Suitcase Fusion 13.2 update is now out. Has anyone been brave enough to try it with Snow Leopard yet - and, in particular, does it 1. resolve the Helvetica Neue Postscript vs System issue and 2. solve the baseline shift/leading problems in Quark 8.1 causing reflow?

Suitcase Fusion was updated yesterday... I downloaded and installed, but had worse font problems than before. More fonts were accessible, but many of the characters were gobbledygook. I ended up having to completely ditch Suitcase and move my most common fonts to the system library fonts folder. I can now see all of the proper characters, but have the same leading problem others are experiencing. In most cases, it's adding leading, but in at least one case (Bembo) it's reducing the leading. HELP!!! Wish I could go back, but I didn't do a clone and don't have time to mess with all the implications of backwards migration at this point.

Confirmed.

I grabbed various fonts (a mix of OpenType PostScript and Type 1 PostScript, .dfont, even an old OS 9 TrueType font) at random and created a four page Quark 8 document with facing pages. Placed a text box on each page and linked them, then filled it with text from a standing document. From there, I randomly changed blocks of text from the default Times New Roman to some of the fonts I opened.

Once I had a simple document full of various fonts, I saved it as a PDF. Comparing PDF to the Quark document in Leopard showed that they matched, as expected.

I then started up in Snow Leopard and copied the fonts, document and PDF file over. Activated the fonts, opened the Quark document and PDF file. The text started reflowing on page 3. I had used a couple of OpenType fonts and one Type 1 PS font earlier, but the one that really screwed up was a Type 1 PS font I had pulled from an Illustrator 9 disk, so there's no doubt the font is good. Yet, it had much more space between each line of text in Snow Leopard than it should.

Next, I took that Type 1 PS font, opened it in FontLab and saved it out as an OpenType PS font. Deactivated the Type 1 version and activated the new OpenType copy. The text instantly fixed itself in Quark.

So the issue appears to be with some, but not all Type 1 PS fonts.

Scratch that. I've narrowed the issue down to Quark (using version 8.1 here). I tried six different apps in Leopard and Snow Leopard. Notably, I duplicated what I did in Quark with InDesign CS4. Here's the results.

1) Something I should have caught the first time. I had used OS X's built in Create PDF function for all PDF files, except InDesign CS4, which kept producing a hosed PDF file. Had to use the Acrobat 9 PDF printer for that. Anyway, since OS X automatically embeds fonts, and the PDF files displayed identically in 10.5 and 10.6, then that means the OS was rendering the fonts correctly.

2) The InDesign CS4 document displayed identically in both Leopard and Snow Leopard. So it too was rendering the fonts correctly. As did the other apps I dropped various fonts into.

Only Quark was having an issue between the two versions of OS X. I think that pretty much confirms that Quark is what needs to be fixed.

Not so, Kurt. I'm having the exact same problem with both iWeb and Keynote. It's not just Quark.

I have been chasing this problem for several days. The techs at Quark were very helpful. The problem is with Postscript Type 1 fonts. And perhaps with older PS Type 1 fonts.

Snow Leopard does not support Apple Type Services (ATS). So the font metrics (line spacing and metric for the character height and width) are returning different values in Snow Leopard than in Leopard. It took three calls to Apple and connecting to Dan Donnelley (a level 2 or 3 technician?) before I got any information.

Apparently, PS Type 1 fonts is not supported in 10.6.1 since ATS is considered "legacy" code and no longer part of Snow Leopard (as per some developer notes in the code files).

I acquired the Adobe Type Library more than 15 years ago, so I may be stuck repurchasing the library for $2599. If you have the Adobe Type Library 8, 9 or 10, you can upgrade to Adobe Type Library 11 (all OTF - Open Type Format) for $1599.

And to this, I say OUCH!

I have not heard of any work-arounds.

I had to erase my hard drive and reinstall 10.5.8 and run a back-up to get back to where I was a week ago.

Apple doesn't seem to be eager to support "old code." Adobe thinks everyone should buy a new font library. It looks as though that $49 upgrade may cost a lot more for designers with older font libraries.