Snow Leopard not yet ready for use

Zero-Energy wrote:
I just spoke with the tech reps at VMware Fusion, and they specifically told me that it would be a month or more before they were compatible with Snow Leopard. My Mac is less than one year old, as is my version of VMware Fusion.

I'm running Fusion Version 2.0.5 (173382)--works fine in Snow Leopard.

I just spoke with the tech reps at VMware Fusion, and they specifically told me that it would be a month or more before they were compatible with Snow Leopard. My Mac is less than one year old, as is my version of VMware Fusion.

I know that several of the beta testers (myself included) were using VMWare during the summer with (apparently) full functionality and stability. I say apparently because it is entirely possible that the VMWare techs are aware of some issues that might crop up in certain instances and that's why they are reporting that it isn't compatible. It might also simply be that VMWare hasn't fully tested the program to their satisfaction yet.

I found with Parallels (which we use at work though I personally prefer VMWare) that I had to uninstall Parallels and reinstall it to get it to work. I don't recall having to do that with VMWare, but then again it has been some time since I first started using SL and I may have just forgotten.

Furi0us.Bee wrote:
I don't know why some big Apple developers are still making us wait or are working on snow leopard versions. I mean have they been testing with the developer builds all this time? I'm complaining too much, about 90% of what I use is SL ready, but when I see them say we're working on it... Hello!!

I agree wholeheartedly; there's really no excuse for not being ready for SL given that all developers had access to the SL seeds.

tungtranminh wrote:
Because I know many people praise 10.6, faster,... so I bought it with 29USD. Now, I cannot try to run 64bit to see it. What a waste!

That's because you mistakenly believe you need to run 64-bit to see a difference.

The differences between 32-bit and 64-bit kernels is in most cases negligible.

Rather, the speed increases in SL come from other areas, mostly rewrites of existing code, and improved schedulers.

Tung,
You don't have to run a 64-bit kernel for it to run faster. All of the core apps were rewritten in 64-bit code. They run in 64-bit with a 32-bit kernel.

Please read the other posts on 64-bit kernel.
See [these benchmarks|http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=10067619&#1006761 9]
You are not going to see any speed increase running 64-bit kernel over 32-bit kernel. It's not windows. It works differently.

And almost every release version has had changes that have to be tested for once it is released, contrary to rumors to the contrary.

Windows 7 had 4 months of public beta, another 3 months of RC - that was available to millions along with developers -- and while drivers and updates keep coming out and looking better, there is still ongoing development and testing and work to be done.

SL is the foundation. When Adobe CS5 goes Cocoa and 64-bit in another year or so, they probably need this time to do their job is my guess. Not an easy undertaking.

And drivers don't just get churned out overnight or a fortnight. It takes months of testing afterwards too to insure they hold up.

A lot of people are on pins and needles holding their breeth waiting for Nvidia to churn out drivers for the GTX 285 that are the equal of their Windows drivers.

I agree wholeheartedly; there's really no excuse for not being ready for SL given that all developers had access to the SL seeds

During the beta process things change - features may be removed because in real world testing they bombed. Features may be temporarily removed because the engineers weren't satisfied with performance or behavior. For some developers updating their program for a new OS during the beta process can be like chasing a moving target and in such cases their resources can be better spent watching and waiting until the code is locked before taking action.

10.6 works fine for most people who have the most current software.

This Wiki is important to find out if your software will run with it:

http://snowleopard.wikidot.com/

This article will tell you if your peripherals work with it:

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3669

A lot depends on whether or not the software is 32 bit or 64 bit, and whether or not it needs Rosetta to run. 32 bit functionality can be toggled in an Applications Get Info window in the Finder, which is obtained from the File menu after clicking it once.

Rosetta is available via Software Update, if you didn't install it initially as the optional install from the Snow Leopard Custom Installation button.

You know, it's funny, but Zero is right on. If your work is mission critical, wait a month, or longer. As he said, " It may be a great system once the rest of the world is ready for it, but right now it has rendered about half of my computer useless", and this may be your experience, too. Fair enough. SL works very well for me, with just a few Finder and Spaces anomalies that are more nuisance than trouble.

That said, this is the best OS Upgrade I have ever used, and the most noticeable speed bump ever, to boot. But that is MY experience.

Exactly my problem during the beta test, dwb.

Consider that Apple was making serious changes right up to a week before release. Would you expect a developer to do work on an update, only to have Apple change things a week before release? When you adopt an OS Upgrade early, this is what you get. If you can't handle that, then wait. It's pretty simple. This is a tremendous update, and I am no Apple fanboy. It just is the most solid Upgrade I have ever used, with the greatest and most obvious speed bump.

Really hope someone on here can help... I have just installed Snow Leopard, my VMware fusion won't work. It was the older version but I have just installed the latest one - still can't get it to work. How can I find out if I am running 64 rather than 32? Does this relate to VMware or to the type of OS I am running on the virtual machine? Any tips?! Thanks.

In the future, when your question isn't directly related to the thread, start a new topic. You'll question will get noticed much faster by more people that way.

Don't worry about the 32/64 bit issue it probably doesn't apply to your problem. There are a couple of possible problems but first what we really need to know is if you can't get VMWare to run - and what error message(s) do you get if it doesn't. Or does VMWare launch but then your Windows installation doesn't run - and how does it fail (lockup, crash etc) and what error message(s) do you get if any?

Was your virtual machine merely suspended or completely shut down when you last closed it before the Snow Leopard upgrade? If it was shut down, you should be able simply to open Fusion again without incident.

If, however, your virtual machine was suspended, you may run into problems, as I did. I finally had to force the VM (Vista Business, in my case) to quit and reboot it in order to get it to work.

Uninstalling and reinstalling the Fusion 2.0.5 app and kernel extensions is of course not a bad idea either -- though again, VMware says it's not strictly necessary.

Interesting thread this and straight to the topic. I'm a Mac user from 1982, not as technical as many on here but a long time Mac user. Before upgrading to SL I researched every application that I use, based on the various lists about the place and where necessary referred to the software company for information. Then I updated just one Mac and waited and watched and then I was happy so I did the rest. That was after doing a thorough spring clean on each Mac.

It's a great upgrade, simple to accomplish and I really like the attention Apple has paid to the enabling technologies that are part of so many of the changes in SL.

Here's my issue though I have had a number of very ugly application and in one cases Mac crashes and every one of them is with an Apple application. iPHoto which has not crashed once in the last couple of years repeatedly crashes. Safari - and I was using 4 before SL and found it very stable - has crashed in a most ungracious way a number of times. Mail apparently caused the whole Mac to crash and I've had runaway temperature, fan and CPU incidents which appear to be caused by the Flash plug in in Safari. When I terminate that process everything returns to normal.

Yes it's a new OS release, yes it will take some days/weeks/months to sort out the glitches. But my glitches aren't about VMWare Fusion which runs perfectly, nor about MS Office which runs perfectly. They are about Apple apps.

I've reset PRAM as suggested elsewhere on this board, I cleared the cache and reset Safari a number of times. Anything else I should be doing to try and smooth the way here?

Thanks
Mike