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Q: MacBook Pro Battery 'Service Battery' after Snow Upgrade

MacBook Pro Battery 'Service Battery' after Snow Upgrade

Way to many people are reporting this to just be failed batteries unless we all got them form the warranty program at the same time. I rather think its an issue with the upgrade.

Note that the KB fix did not help my machine so this needs more trouble shooting.
Any help would be great.

MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.6)

Posted on Sep 1, 2009 5:28 PM

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  • by ajophoto,

    ajophoto ajophoto May 17, 2010 9:08 AM in response to ajophoto
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    May 17, 2010 9:08 AM in response to ajophoto
    Battery dropping from 70% to less that 40% in about 1/2 hour now...worrying signs...batt is 2 weeks old.

    Battery Information:

    Model Information:
    Manufacturer: SMP
    Device name: ASMB012
    Pack Lot Code: 0002
    PCB Lot Code: 0000
    Firmware Version: 0110
    Hardware Revision: 0500
    Cell Revision: 0200
    Charge Information:
    Charge remaining (mAh): 2215
    Fully charged: No
    Charging: Yes
    Full charge capacity (mAh): 5481
    Health Information:
    Cycle count: 8
    Condition: Normal
    Battery Installed: Yes
    Amperage (mA): 2564
    Voltage (mV): 11767

    Is this rocky road again? Hope not.
  • by CMCSK,

    CMCSK CMCSK May 18, 2010 5:41 PM in response to ajophoto
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    May 18, 2010 5:41 PM in response to ajophoto
    Anyone got best advice for ensuring maximum life span?

    Whenever you purchase new batteries, calibrate them. - Calibrating a portable computer battery



    Apple Portables: Tips for maximizing your battery charge

    Message was edited by: CMCSK
  • by Steven Bowen,

    Steven Bowen Steven Bowen May 28, 2010 6:12 AM in response to blieux
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    May 28, 2010 6:12 AM in response to blieux
    Hi I also have this problem now.
    My MacBook Pro brought on Nov 2007.
    I don't know what to do now?
    It told me: "The battery isn't functioning normally, and you may or may not notice a change in its behavior or the amount of charge it holds. Have your computer checked by an Apple Authorized service provide."
    I read some of the comment, they also have this problem.
    Hope to hear from you all.
  • by vigaga,

    vigaga vigaga May 28, 2010 6:33 AM in response to Steven Bowen
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    May 28, 2010 6:33 AM in response to Steven Bowen
    as mentioned in my previous post, i had "the" battery problem with my MBP 3.1 15", too:
    less than 50 cycles, battery used for 14 months, testresult in store: all red!
    unfortunately, apple was not willing to give me a new one for free. they merely offered a new battery for a small reduction in price but with only 90 days warranty. i decided to better buy one at full price with one year warranty. its an SMP and after 5 cycles everything looks good, but wait and see.....

    i am still convinced that the new power management of SL does some harm to batteries, at least in this type of MBPs (disagreeing with rod hagen)!
  • by TimMyers,

    TimMyers TimMyers May 28, 2010 9:55 AM in response to blieux
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    May 28, 2010 9:55 AM in response to blieux
    Recently I've gone from 'its the Sony batteries that are the problem' to 'it's 10.6 that is the problem'

    After problems with the last two batteries I run Coconut Battery on startup and keep a record every day. I've been doing this since I got a new battery in Jan and it's been rock solid at 98%.

    Then suddenly 10.6 reports that my battery capacity has fallen from 98% of original capacity the day before to 31%. When running on battery I get about 45 mins run time then the machine shuts down. Recalibrating the battery and resetting the SMC as Apple directs makes no difference, after 45 mins it shuts down.

    But if I then boot from an external HD with 10.5.8, leave the battery to charge fully and then perform a DVD rundown test I get 2hrs and 20 mins before the machine shuts down. Initially it estimates 45 mins runtime but at the 10mins left stage it suddenly changes its mind and estimates 1hr 40m. When booted back into 10.6 the battery reports 98% capacity again and will happily run for almost 3 hours before it shuts down. This has happened twice with this battery. The battery is 4 months old with 70 cycles on it, made by SMP and was an Apple Store retail purchase part not a brown box. This is the 3rd battery to experience problems in this machine under 10.6.

    I religiously run the machine for about a hour on battery every morning and then on the charger for the rest of the day. Once shutdown for the night I remove it from the charger.
  • by Confuzzzed,

    Confuzzzed Confuzzzed Jun 3, 2010 9:47 AM in response to blieux
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    Jun 3, 2010 9:47 AM in response to blieux
    Thought you might as well add me to the list,

    Model Information:
    Manufacturer: SMP
    Device name: ASMB014
    Pack Lot Code: 0001
    PCB Lot Code: 0000
    Firmware Version: 0102
    Hardware Revision: 0202
    Cell Revision: 0100
    Charge Information:
    Charge remaining (mAh): 786
    Fully charged: No
    Charging: Yes
    Full charge capacity (mAh): 2135
    Health Information:
    Cycle count: 219
    Condition: Check Battery
    Battery Installed: Yes
    Amperage (mA): 2173
    Voltage (mV): 12142

    lasts about 30 mins before it shuts down. Trying a recondition cycle. See what happens
  • by Confuzzzed,

    Confuzzzed Confuzzzed Jun 3, 2010 10:08 AM in response to Confuzzzed
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    Jun 3, 2010 10:08 AM in response to Confuzzzed
    Actually just noticed a discrepancy.

    Before my previous post I had let my battery run down and try all the 'solutions' posted. Nothing worked. But I did copy and paste my battery information into a Stickie before I did this and it did say this:

    Full charge capacity (mAh): 4019

    Now it says 2135

    Its just lost half the capacity!!
  • by Leggendario,

    Leggendario Leggendario Jun 7, 2010 9:05 AM in response to Confuzzzed
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    Jun 7, 2010 9:05 AM in response to Confuzzzed
    My MacBook Pro is exhibiting the same problem, but worse. I have 2 year old MacBook Pro which is well taken care. I upgraded to SL couple of months ago, and then suddenly the dreaded check battery message appears on my battery monitor. I ignore this issues for quite a while thinking that it was something to do with SL. I always calibrate my MacBook Pro 1-2 times a month and even I have a notification from my iCal that I need to calibrate it. Initially before I upgraded to SL my battery meter reads that it has 5,200 mAh (3.5 hours to 4 hours of use) remaining on my full charge capacity. After I upgraded to SL, it became very erratic in a way that it does not show consistent charge capacity sometimes it will tell that it has only 3200 mAh, then went down to 2800 mAh then settle down to 4520 mAh, and etc.... normally even in this erratic battery condition I can still get 2 1/2 - 3 hours on a single charge. Then last friday June 4, while on my routine calibrating schedule my laptop suddenly turns off when the battery is at 67 %. So I did what I have to do which is really against my will to call Apple. They tell me that because my machine is out of warranty they can't do anything regarding my problem, I've heard from first person that I've talked with is that they have special exception in replacing the battery when the battery shows problem within the first year or the charge cycle is less than 300. So I talked to the senior tech support agent, telling me that because of the age of my laptop there is nothing I can do but to purchase a new battery. So that's it after most of us spending more than 2K on a laptop, taking care of the laptop well Apple will not even recognize that this problem exists. I have a 4 year old HP laptop which has a much better battery life than my MacBook Pro and that laptop is less than 1K.....
  • by Paul SC,

    Paul SC Paul SC Jun 8, 2010 11:38 AM in response to blieux
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    Jun 8, 2010 11:38 AM in response to blieux
    Does anyone upgrade from Leopard to Snow Leopard, I had non of this in Leopard, I did a clean install 3 months ago and all was allright until the past week which i past the 300 cycles (i have my MB about 1 1/2 years) and suddenly i have this problems, my battery the last week used to last about 4 1/2 hours, now last 1 hour max and shutdowns when the charge is at 30% aprox. I did all kind of things: reset PRAM, SMC, battery recalibration; even tryied to apply the Battery Update 1.4 but it says my battery doesn't needed, i read this update fixes those models that applys.

    I was noticing that:
    Device name: bq20z951
    Pack Lot Code: 0000
    Firmware Version: 002a

    are having this problems, I don't know what else to do, I've been reading that many people after installing Snow Leopard is having this troubles and reinstaling Leopard back doesn't fix the problem, so maybe Snow Leopar is killing batteries with 300 cycles or more in order to get a new one.

    My battery info is:
    Model Information:
    Serial Number: xxxxxxxxxVK
    Manufacturer: SMP
    Device name: bq20z951
    Pack Lot Code: 0000
    PCB Lot Code: 0000
    Firmware Version: 002a
    Hardware Revision: 000a
    Cell Revision: 0100
    Charge Information:
    Charge remaining (mAh): 1088
    Fully charged: No
    Charging: Yes
    Full charge capacity (mAh): 2515
    Health Information:
    Cycle count: 309
    Condition: Check Battery
    Battery Installed: Yes
    Amperage (mA): 762
    Voltage (mV): 12019

    Any help would be apreciated by many people.

    Thank you.
  • by ajophoto,

    ajophoto ajophoto Jun 9, 2010 9:13 AM in response to Paul SC
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    Jun 9, 2010 9:13 AM in response to Paul SC
    Snow Leopard certainly finished off my old Sony Battery, but I am pretty happy with performance of the new SMP that I bought a month or so ago. Getting a good couple of hours usage out of the MBP at the moment.

    I am certain that the old Sony was not compatible with 64 bit and that was the issue and the reason that SL killed it off. Very annoying and very costly and Apple should not let this kind of thing happen to people who spend ± 1200GBP ($1500US) on a machine.

    But at this stage all I can say is that a new battery seems to have done the job for me.
  • by Ryan Helbig,

    Ryan Helbig Ryan Helbig Jun 11, 2010 2:02 PM in response to blieux
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    Jun 11, 2010 2:02 PM in response to blieux
    I was previously following this thread: http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=9160087#9160087.

    I got my MacBook Pro in December of 2007 and 15 months later I had sudden shutdown issues with my battery. (with only 90 cycles) After seeing all of the issues others had, I contacted Apple support by phone to no avail. I then went to an Apple store and quickly had my battery replaced for free. I was very happy at the time considering I was out of warranty (and not within the battery replacement program). My new battery seemed great for a long while just as my original battery had, but sure enough, a year later, I began having battery problems again. Now my problems are erratic battery statistics, shortened life, and the service/check battery warning that comes and goes. I have had problems with 2 batteries on OS X (10.5 and 10.6). I'm not buying a new battery just to watch it die...

    I don't know what causes these problems but I do know one thing. Apple isn't going to fix these battery issues. It's cheaper to replace batteries for the mean time then to develop a fix for problems with obsolete hardware. Replacing our batteries just buys them time until the issue fades into the past...

    It's sad how familiar that process was to the genius at the Apple store.

    Me- "My battery is messed up and my computer shuts down."
    Genius- "Ok", *plugs in iPod*, "Your battery is bad", *gives me new battery*
  • by J. Davis,

    J. Davis J. Davis Jun 14, 2010 1:09 PM in response to blieux
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    Mac OS X
    Jun 14, 2010 1:09 PM in response to blieux
    Snow Leopard has pretty much killed my Sony battery. It was replaced at the Apple store about 12 months ago. Now holds little to no charge.
  • by VU Edit-1,

    VU Edit-1 VU Edit-1 Jun 15, 2010 1:39 AM in response to Rod Hagen
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    Jun 15, 2010 1:39 AM in response to Rod Hagen
    Didn't buy a new battery but checked my battery info again last night, not done anything to my MBP (bar the fact I've since always run it off the mains):

    Figures on 29th April:

    Charge Information:
    Charge remaining (mAh): 186
    Fully charged: Yes
    Charging: No
    Full charge capacity (mAh): 186
    Health Information:
    Cycle count: 95
    Condition: Check Battery
    Battery Installed: Yes
    Amperage (mA): 119
    Voltage (mV): 12612

    Figures on 14th June:

    Charge Information:
    Charge remaining (mAh): 4827
    Fully charged: Yes
    Charging: No
    Full charge capacity (mAh): 4947
    Health Information:
    Cycle count: 95
    Condition: Normal
    Battery Installed: Yes
    Amperage (mA): 0
    Voltage (mV): 12457
  • by Steve Explores,

    Steve Explores Steve Explores Jun 25, 2010 2:19 PM in response to ajophoto
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    Jun 25, 2010 2:19 PM in response to ajophoto
    I got this warning a few days ago, but some months after upgrading to Snow. Usual resets provided no joy. Sadly I did not save off what System Profiler reported, but I think it said mA was 0 and the condition was needing a service. My Macbook Pro about a year and half old so wasn't expecting battery death just yet.

    Was reading the forums when I got the Software Update prompt to upgrade to 10.6.4. Looked through the changes and could find nothing about batteries. But thought I would upgrade before trying anything more drastic. **Post update no problems at all!!!**

    A week later still no problems so from my experience it seems to have been a software problem, not a hardware problem. I would have been royally peed off if I had just gone out and brought a new battery! Hope you are as lucky.

    Here is my battery info now:

    Battery Information:

    Model Information:
    Manufacturer: Sony
    Device name: ASMB012
    Pack Lot Code: 0000
    PCB Lot Code: 0000
    Firmware Version: 0110
    Hardware Revision: 0500
    Cell Revision: 0303
    Charge Information:
    Charge remaining (mAh): 4422
    Fully charged: No
    Charging: No
    Full charge capacity (mAh): 4835
    Health Information:
    Cycle count: 242
    Condition: Normal
    Battery Installed: Yes
    Amperage (mA): -1142
    Voltage (mV): 11943
  • by vickysud,

    vickysud vickysud Jun 26, 2010 2:37 PM in response to blieux
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    Jun 26, 2010 2:37 PM in response to blieux
    guys i need help its been a year since i bought my macbook pro early 2009 17inch. all i want to know is my cycle count is too high at 601..is it normal or should i change my battery ? but considering tht its been only a year

    Model Information:

    Manufacturer: DP
    Device name: bq20z951
    Pack Lot Code: 0000
    PCB Lot Code: 0000
    Firmware Version: 0042
    Hardware Revision: 0001
    Cell Revision: 0119
    Charge Information:
    Charge remaining (mAh): 3174
    Fully charged: No
    Charging: Yes
    Full charge capacity (mAh): 6161
    Health Information:
    Cycle count: 601
    Condition: Check Battery
    Battery Installed: Yes
    Amperage (mA): 3886
    Voltage (mV): 8110

    Message was edited by: vickysud
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