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Q: MacBook Pro Battery 'Service Battery' after Snow Upgrade

MacBook Pro Battery 'Service Battery' after Snow Upgrade

Way to many people are reporting this to just be failed batteries unless we all got them form the warranty program at the same time. I rather think its an issue with the upgrade.

Note that the KB fix did not help my machine so this needs more trouble shooting.
Any help would be great.

MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.6)

Posted on Sep 1, 2009 5:28 PM

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  • by sr.richie,

    sr.richie sr.richie Nov 11, 2010 7:20 AM in response to blieux
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    Nov 11, 2010 7:20 AM in response to blieux
    I reported here some months ago about my "Service Battery" message after Snow Leopard Upgrade. I noticed a low decrease on performance (it suddenly felt from 89% to 71%....) but no shutdown.
    My battery is 230 cycles old. I took care of it, calibrating it, alternating form AC to DC and so no
    One month ago, situation got worst. Charge felt to 56% without reason, and trying to calibrate my battery is impossible due to random shutdown.
    I'm sorry, but I really think that this is something that will never be fixed.
    All you Apple blind fan, keep ALWAYS in mind that Apple often makes mistakes and prefers to move on and not fix them (on my machine I have also the Vertical Stripes problems, never fixed)
  • by Merak,

    Merak Merak Nov 11, 2010 7:43 AM in response to sr.richie
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    Nov 11, 2010 7:43 AM in response to sr.richie
    I agree, i think it won't ever been fixed...i gave up, and it's not a battery itsefl for sure...i tried a third part one, and i got the same behaviour...so..no point in buying any further battery...actually i'm stucked with 1:30 h of autonomy, and it has been like that for the past few months, with 38-39%, even if at the beginning i experienced the the floating healt battery percentage 90-62%.

    Normally i use the MBP plugged to the outlet, but still..i randomly use it on the couch, or on the bed, and i've to be sure to have the power adapter with me

    After almost 3 years, this is the only main issue i had with it and besides that, i'm very satisfied with its performance and stuffs.
    I never get the Apple Care extension because unless it's the logic board, whic is quite expensive, i can repair almost everything by myslef and on ebay u can find almost every part needed. I replaced a loud fan for 9$..no point spending 350€ for something like that...
    i'm stil disappointed for this that is mainly a OS issue; if your battery has less than 300 cycles u could reclaim a replacement since the battery didn't accomplish Apple quality requirements, which is 80% of heal up to 300 cycles.
  • by don montalvo,

    don montalvo don montalvo Nov 11, 2010 8:00 AM in response to Merak
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    Nov 11, 2010 8:00 AM in response to Merak
    Merak wrote:
    I agree, i think it won't ever been fixed...


    Apple fixed it on i5/i7 computers:

    http://donmontalvo.com/apple/i5i7_energy_saveroption.jpg

    Agreed, not likely this will ever get fixed on other computers.

    Don
  • by sr.richie,

    sr.richie sr.richie Nov 11, 2010 8:06 AM in response to Merak
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    Nov 11, 2010 8:06 AM in response to Merak
    Thx Merak,
    the only site where the "300 cycles/80%" policy is applied seems to be Apple Store (and there is no Apple Store here in Torino, Italy).
    I call both the OFFICIAL Apple assistance site here and both told me that this is not an official policy but just a estimated battery performance.
  • by nick90,

    nick90 nick90 Nov 11, 2010 7:47 PM in response to blieux
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    Nov 11, 2010 7:47 PM in response to blieux
    I have a macbook pro 5,3 (15 inch, mid 2009)

    Over the past week my battery has basically died. istat pro says battery health is at 11%, and the battery is only holding 700 mAh. The computer has only done 180 cycles and has just ran out of warranty.

    Will apple fix this?
  • by Fallen_AngelAA,

    Fallen_AngelAA Fallen_AngelAA Nov 19, 2010 12:02 PM in response to blieux
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    Nov 19, 2010 12:02 PM in response to blieux
    Adding my macbook pro to the count… checked with Apple Canada and there is no battery replacement plan and I don't have AppleCare… guess I have to buy a new battery… and here I thought macs were trouble free..

    Battery Information:

    Model Information:
    Serial Number: 6N904042N2VLA
    Manufacturer: SMP
    Device name: bq20z951
    Pack Lot Code: 0000
    PCB Lot Code: 0000
    Firmware Version: 002a
    Hardware Revision: 000a
    Cell Revision: 0100
    Charge Information:
    Charge remaining (mAh): 3332
    Fully charged: Yes
    Charging: No
    Full charge capacity (mAh): 3332
    Health Information:
    Cycle count: 86
    Condition: Check Battery
    Battery Installed: Yes
    Amperage (mA): 0
    Voltage (mV): 12504

    System Power Settings:

    AC Power:
    System Sleep Timer (Minutes): 10
    Disk Sleep Timer (Minutes): 10
    Display Sleep Timer (Minutes): 10
    Automatic Restart On Power Loss: No
    Wake On AC Change: No
    Wake On Clamshell Open: Yes
    Wake On LAN: Yes
    Current Power Source: Yes
    Display Sleep Uses Dim: Yes
    GPUSwitch: 2
    Battery Power:
    System Sleep Timer (Minutes): 10
    Disk Sleep Timer (Minutes): 10
    Display Sleep Timer (Minutes): 2
    Wake On AC Change: No
    Wake On Clamshell Open: Yes
    Display Sleep Uses Dim: Yes
    GPUSwitch: 2
    Reduce Brightness: Yes

    Hardware Configuration:

    UPS Installed: No

    AC Charger Information:

    Connected: Yes
    ID: 0x0100
    Wattage (W): 85
    Revision: 0x0000
    Family: 0x00ba
    Serial Number: 0x006f9e69
    Charging: No
  • by George Mavroftas,

    George Mavroftas George Mavroftas Nov 21, 2010 9:00 PM in response to blieux
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    Nov 21, 2010 9:00 PM in response to blieux
    I've also had battery problems since moving up to Snow Leopard. Replaced my battery once under AppleCare. Now I'm 8 months past the expiration of AppleCare, the "Service Battery" message has resumed and my battery keeps draining even while my computer is sleeping.

    Here are the details of my system:


    *Hardware Overview:*

    Model Name: MacBook Pro
    Model Identifier: MacBookPro2,2
    Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
    Processor Speed: 2.33 GHz
    Number Of Processors: 1
    Total Number Of Cores: 2
    L2 Cache: 4 MB
    Memory: 2 GB
    Bus Speed: 667 MHz
    Boot ROM Version: MBP22.00A5.B07
    SMC Version (system): 1.12f5
    Serial Number (system): W865227SW0H
    Hardware UUID: 00000000-0000-1000-8000-0017F2CCDFD0
    Sudden Motion Sensor:
    State: Enabled

    *Battery Information:*

    Model Information:
    Manufacturer: Sony
    Device name: ASMB012
    Pack Lot Code: 0001
    PCB Lot Code: 0000
    Firmware Version: 0110
    Hardware Revision: 0500
    Cell Revision: 0303
    Charge Information:
    Charge remaining (mAh): 3705
    Fully charged: No
    Charging: Yes
    Full charge capacity (mAh): 4159
    Health Information:
    Cycle count: 124
    Condition: Check Battery
    Battery Installed: Yes
    Amperage (mA): 678
    Voltage (mV): 12603
  • by Luis Neves,

    Luis Neves Luis Neves Nov 22, 2010 6:11 AM in response to blieux
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    Nov 22, 2010 6:11 AM in response to blieux
    Hi

    I found out this problem in my Macbook yesterday.
    But there is the thing i have the Snow Leopard for a while, but this only come up , when did the ram upgrade. I had tried the reset to the SMC, but without success. i still have the Tiger in another partition, and in Tiger there is no absolute problem with the battery.
  • by Burratha,

    Burratha Burratha Nov 25, 2010 2:39 AM in response to blieux
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    Nov 25, 2010 2:39 AM in response to blieux
    I am too getting the "Service Battery" message. I'm currently going through a calibration cycle (recharging after the battery drain at the moment) so will see what happens these - I'm not holding my breath though!

    Just a quick thought. I noticed earlier in the thread that someone seemed to think that Apple had offered a fix for machines with i5 / i7 processors (allowing power-save mode in power management to be turned off) - now, I did this recently when playing Steam (Half Life 2) when on power mode. This may have initially manifested before this, but I am going to have a "test" and reboot after resetting the option to the factory setting.

    It's a real pain in the backside; I like my kit "just so" - so when there are error or warning messages, it bugs the **** out of me.

    Finally, has anyone tried this? (I don't want to trawl through 100+ pages...)

    Has anyone with a reportedly "bad" battery removed it from their mac, and put it into a similar mac that is reporting no problems?
  • by Burratha,

    Burratha Burratha Nov 26, 2010 12:23 AM in response to Burratha
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    Nov 26, 2010 12:23 AM in response to Burratha
    Just a quick update to my last post....

    Got home yesterday after charging the MBP all day whilst at work. Light was green on the adapter, so booted up the machine.

    Still showed the "service battery" icon.

    Tried a reboot, changing the graphics power options, permissions repair - no help at all.

    Ran on battery for a while - with some network activity (copying files to/from an SMB network share) - Kernel panic! - I wonder if this is linked, as I've been having more than I'm comfortable with lately.

    Anyway, whilst running the thing on battery, the "time left" display was very erratic, bouncing from as low as 30 minutes, up to 2 hours, down to 45 minutes, depending on what was happening.

    I let the discharge continue until the Reserve Power notification popped up, at which I plugged the power back in. I was informed that the charging time would be over 4 hours!! It's never been so high.

    I think I'll just let the battery die, then go either buy another or preferably at least speak to Apple at the Genius Bar (worth a go, I suppose) - I tend to use the machine on power more than battery. It's had over 300 cycles, so maybe I'm due a new one?
  • by patagonia32,

    patagonia32 patagonia32 Nov 26, 2010 6:44 PM in response to blieux
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    Nov 26, 2010 6:44 PM in response to blieux
    Here are my stats:

    Model Information:
    Manufacturer: Sony
    Device name: ASMB012
    Pack Lot Code: 0003
    PCB Lot Code: 0000
    Firmware Version: 102a
    Hardware Revision: 0500
    Cell Revision: 0303
    Charge Information:
    Charge remaining (mAh): 1032
    Fully charged: No
    Charging: No
    Full charge capacity (mAh): 1032
    Health Information:
    Cycle count: 221
    Condition: Check Battery
    Battery Installed: Yes
    Amperage (mA): 0
    Voltage (mV): 12646


    Is this absolutely terrible? I never use my computer without it being plugged in nowadays - would a newer battery affect performance? What about for gaming?

    Thanks.
  • by George Mavroftas,

    George Mavroftas George Mavroftas Nov 30, 2010 6:44 PM in response to patagonia32
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    Nov 30, 2010 6:44 PM in response to patagonia32
    I hope the following will be useful in trying to come up with a solution to the battery problem:

    Following my last post, I partitioned an external hard drive into four sectors and installed the following: Leopard 10.5.8, Snow Leopard 10.6.5, and 2 copies of Snow Leopard 10.6. The "Service Battery" problem exists whenever my MacBook Pro is booted from Snow Leopard regardless of version or location (internal or external HD). Booting into Leopard, however, results in longer battery life and no "Service Battery" message.

    I wonder if there's a file or app in Snow Leopard that I could replace with one from Leopard that would resolve the problem without downgrading to Leopard. Any suggestions?
  • by George Mavroftas,

    George Mavroftas George Mavroftas Dec 1, 2010 4:54 AM in response to George Mavroftas
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    Dec 1, 2010 4:54 AM in response to George Mavroftas
    Ugh! Though my battery life remains better under Leopard compared to Snow Leopard, the battery condition in "About this Mac" is "check battery." Percentage of charge is the same whether booted from Leopard or Snow Leopard, but the time remaining is twice as long with Leopard.

    Maybe I need a new battery despite having only 126 cycles on this one.

    *Battery Information*:

    Model Information:
    Serial Number: Sony-ASMB012-3a33-9d05
    Manufacturer: Sony
    Device name: ASMB012
    Pack Lot Code: 0001
    PCB Lot Code: 0000
    Firmware Version: 0110
    Hardware Revision: 0500
    Cell Revision: 0303
    Charge Information:
    Charge remaining (mAh): 2546
    Fully charged: No
    Charging: No
    Full charge capacity (mAh): 3645
    Health Information:
    Cycle count: 126
    Condition: Check Battery
    Battery Installed: Yes
    Amperage (mA): -1459
    Voltage (mV): 11538
  • by sepp-e,

    sepp-e sepp-e Dec 1, 2010 9:09 AM in response to blieux
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    Dec 1, 2010 9:09 AM in response to blieux
    Joining the complaints:

    September 2009 my first battery died, well at least that's what I assumed at that time. Bought a new one (€140), now more than a year later, with only 37 cycles -> service battery..

    (In dutch:)
    +Informatie batterij:+

    Modelinformatie:
    +Fabrikant: Sony+
    +Apparaatnaam: ASMB012+
    +Pack Lot Code: 0001+
    +PCB Lot Code: 0000+
    +Firmwareversie: 0110+
    +Hardwarerevisie: 0500+
    +Celrevisie: 0303+
    Ladingsinformatie:
    +Resterende lading (mAh): 1199+
    +Volledig opgeladen: Nee+
    +Bezig met opladen: Ja+
    +Volledige laadcapaciteit (mAh): 3603+
    Statusinformatie:
    +Aantal cycli: 37+
    +Conditie: Controleer batterij+
    +Batterij geïnstalleerd: Ja+
    +Ampèrage (mA): 2422+
    +Voltage (mV): 12227+

    Went to the "official apple retailer" (Belgium doesn't have an Apple store with genius bar): out of warrenty..

    Apple, you've got to be kidding me (and 1000's of other users). For years I've tried to promote and support Mac computers at my university college (ICT engineering - most anti-Apple environment you can imagine). But now, I'm really starting to doubt if it's worth it.

    Greets,
    Seppe
  • by Michael Thorn,

    Michael Thorn Michael Thorn Dec 1, 2010 9:38 AM in response to blieux
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    Dec 1, 2010 9:38 AM in response to blieux
    Adding yet another to the list. Nothing to add really.

    Model Information:
    Manufacturer: Sony
    Device name: ASMB012
    Pack Lot Code: 0001
    PCB Lot Code: 0000
    Firmware Version: 0110
    Hardware Revision: 0500
    Cell Revision: 0303
    Charge Information:
    Charge remaining (mAh): 3708
    Fully charged: Yes
    Charging: No
    Full charge capacity (mAh): 3768
    Health Information:
    Cycle count: 257
    Condition: Check Battery
    Battery Installed: Yes
    Amperage (mA): -30
    Voltage (mV): 12377
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