HFS permissions from Windows 7

Try rewriting your ACLs to match what DJRumpy's new account has.

I'm a strong computer user, but on my first Mac and loving it. The giant multitouch trackpad with no buttons had to be the selling point, I use the 4 finger expose feature like it's going out of style, even when I've got my mouse.

How would I go about editing my Access Control Lists? I'm guessing it's not the same as Get Info > Sharing & Permissions (which I've tried, maybe incorrectly mind you).

Thank you both btw, DJRumpy's solution may work, but I'm going to avoid it for now; I'm sure there are many who've upgraded from Leopard to Snow Leopard using the new bootcamp drivers having the same problem with their old /User/username folder, trying to read it from the windows side.

I'm aware of software solutions, but OS X has spoilt me in the 4 months I've had it, this should just work.

I'm not afraid of command line :P

I'm sure many would benefit greatly from a step by step, I've read that a few ppl have this same problem.

J_42,

I did notice, once the OP managed to post the info I needed (quite late in the thread), that there are several ACEs set on his HOME folder that are not the default (which is, simply: "0: group:everyone deny delete").

With the default value set for my HOME folder, I have no problem accessing from Vista. Since the OP is able to access a newly-created HOME folder with these same values from W7, I think we can assume that the problem lies with the additional ACEs (an ACE is an Entry in the ACL).

So, I will provide the commands to use in Terminal which I suspect might help here. Here goes...

1) Open /Applications/Utilities/Terminal. At the prompt, copy and paste the following two lines of text into the Terminal window, one line at a time followed by a <RETURN>:

<pre style="overflow:auto; font-family: 'Monaco'; font-size: 10px">chmod -N ~/
chmod +a "everyone deny delete" ~/</pre>

Then, verify by copying and pasting this line of text into the Terminal window, followed by a <RETURN>:

<pre style="overflow:auto; font-family: 'Monaco'; font-size: 10px">ls -ale ~/</pre>

You will probably get a full "report card" on your HOME folder, and it may extend well above what you see in the window. Scroll back up to the first bit below the command you executed, and look at this portion:

<pre style="overflow:auto; font-family: 'Monaco'; font-size: 10px">drwxr-xr-x+ 24 your_name staff 816 Sep 2 16:22 .
0: group:everyone deny delete
</pre>

Your output for the line that includes the "." should read exactly the same as above, only with your own short name.

Scott

Negatory, didn't do the trick.

drwxr-xr-x+ 29 shortname staff 986 3 Sep 00:26 .
0: group:everyone deny delete

I rebooted and checked too obviously.

J_42,

:-P

I give up. Upgrade to Vista, doggone it (LOL)!

Scott

EDIT: On a more serious note... There may be some rudimentary attempt at an implementation of adherence to permissions within the Bootcamp driver itself, as it currently exists, and this is a forward-looking implementation that only affects W7. Hey, I'm just guessing here. It still doesn't explain why one HOME folder would get one sort of treatment, and another... another. -s

One was created in 10.5,
One was created in 10.6,
If creating a user account has changed even one iota, this could possibly cause unforeseen problems when it comes to what is made visible to windows.

J_42,

Hmmm. You know, someone did mention something in an earlier post that gave me a thought (didn't follow up at the time). Tell me, can you see the "Public" folder of a HOME folder that is otherwise invisible from W7? Someone mentioned this phenomenon earlier.

If so, this sounds like an implementation not of permissions, but of sharing, since the "Public" folder is the only directory that is automatically "served" in a sharing environment (beginning with Leopard).

And, it leads me down the path to this: You need not post the exact info, but what are the full names on your regular accounts in both W7 and OS X? Are they the same? Different? Have you created a second account in OS X using the same full name as your account in W7? Are you able to access this same-named OS X account, but not others?

Scott

This problem we are discussing arises regardless of what version of windows, I'm on Vista, DJRumpy is on 7, and another thread under Bootcamp that just started, the guy is on XP. If this is an implementation of sharing, which is very possible, as I've read that ppl on the Mac side have been asked for passwords to access data on the windows side, why not the other way around through the HFS+ driver.

To answer your question, no, the user account names are not the same, the shortname on the mac side is also the computer name for both Mac OS X 10.6 and Vista, but the user names are the same, as I have changed it on the mac side (Full Name).

If I understand correctly, the short name is what matters.

The chmod thing you posted earlier, did subdirectories and files inherit the ACL changes?

J_42,

The first one removes ACLs recursively, so yes. This is the only method of remove ACLs. The second does not operate recursively, so no. The result is a return to the default ACL for the HOME folder, and the removal of any nested ACLs.

Scott

I use acl's all the time. It's a great way to give users custom permissions on folders they normally
can not access. It's also a good way to keep them out too. Leopard server has acl support built
in, the standard edition does not. The only GUI tool I know of (short of buying Leopard Server)
is SandBox.
http://www.mikey-san.net/sandbox/

Here is some good documentation to catch you up to speed on Leopard's acl implementation:
http://www.afp548.com/filemgmt/index.php?id=40
http://support.novell.com/techcenter/articles/anp20010601.html
http://manuals.info.apple.com/enUS/File_Services_Adminv10.5.pdf
http://manuals.info.apple.com/enUS/Command_Line_Adminv10.5.pdf

Kj

DJRumpy,

Go back through the thread. All the answers are there.

Scott