Why is starting timecode default always 01:00:00:00?

Just starting with FCP 5.0.2. When I looked at my 5 minute edited sequence in the Timeline window, the timecode window (on the right of the little RT button) showed 1:05:00:00, which I interpreted as 1 hour 5 minutes long.

I've been monitoring this figure to see how much I have edited all up as I go.

All of the manuals, and screenshots I have just checked out show a starting timecode of 1:00:00:00. Just wondering why? Is it safe to change it to start with all zeros?

Any advice appreciated. Robert.

Posted on Oct 7, 2005 11:12 PM

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Oct 7, 2005 11:56 PM in response to Robert Downunder

The industry standard is for program to start at 1;00;00;00. What that number means is that this is the first hour of programming, or also associated with tape 1. 2;00;00;00 means hour two of programming, or tape 2. A lot of information is usually added BEFORE the 1;00;00;00 mark. Tapes are usually striped wth timecode to start at 00;58;00;00. First 30 seconds are black, then about a minute or 30 seconds of bard and tone, then black, then a slate for 5 or 10 seconds, then either more black, or a countdown.

I geuss you could change it to start at 00;00;00;00. It is in the preferences somewhere. Too lazy to go to my office and fire up my FCP system to check right now though. I am in the middle of watching the second episode of LOST.

Oct 8, 2005 1:04 AM in response to Robert Downunder

Thanks Shane and Dennis.

I know how to change the timecode - User Prefs>Timeline Options.

My question was perhaps unclear. I was really just wondering why the extra one hour was used as a default in the starting timecode. It confused me when I checked how much I had edited. I find it also confusing with the wrong duration in the actual timeline. Obviously it doesn't worry anyone else.

I've now re-set the starting timecode to all zeros, which makes more sense to me as a beginner, and am hoping there will not be any negative consequences as a result.

Regards. Robert.

Oct 8, 2005 1:13 AM in response to Robert Downunder

"…any negative consequences…"


Only that: a) Those in the business are used to it, should you ever need to send out tapes of your work etc., and; b) The reason for the 01:00:00.00 starting TC convention is hinted at in Shane's post above- If your program TC starts at 00:00:00.00 and you need to lay down 2 mins of black & bars before that, your TC on tape will end up starting at 23:58:00.00. Some TC devices get awfully confused when the TC at the head of the tape is 23 hours after the actual program TC!

Hope that makes sense (-:

Oct 8, 2005 1:38 AM in response to Robert Downunder

Also, here in the UK we use 10:00:00:00 as programme start time. This was chosen, as in the old days ⚠ when you were recording studio output you recorded "time-of-day" timecode, i.e. the timecode recorded is exactly the same as the current time of the recording (i.e. at 11.23AM you'd be recordine 11:23:00:00).

Studios started work at 10am, and never recorded straight away, so 10:00:00:00 start woud always indicate an edited tape.

Some stations I know use 05:00:00:00 timecode for promos and idents, so they can be clearly separated from programmes, which would have 10:00:00:00 for local and 01:00:00:00 for US programmes.

There's so much in TV tht's based on legacy practices!

Cheers

Steve

Oct 8, 2005 6:14 PM in response to Robert Downunder

Thanks everyone for the feedback. It makes more sense now, and a little bit of history has been thrown in.

I'd rather start off with good habits - use industry standards & do things the right way - so I've now re-set the starting timecode to the default of 01:00:00:00.

At the moment I'm only editing short videos no longer than 45 minutes, and they will get distributed via DVD. After capture & then cataloguing (using CatDV) the original miniDV tapes go into my safe at home, unlikely to be touched again.

If I ever need to send out tapes of my work down the track, I'll at least feel more comfortable having set up FCP5 to use industry standards from day one.

Regards. Robert.

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