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Q: Random freezing from Snow Leopard - total lock-up for about 30 seconds

I am having random freezes like the authors of many recent topics on this forum. From the number of 'views' on their threads, it seems that many other users have the same problem.

These are not like any other freezes I have ever had - usually when the beach ball shows, it still allows me to show the dock, move windows etc... but these freezes bring everything to a halt.

Since this problem first started for me the say I upgraded, and seems to be the same (from what I can tell) for other users who reported this, does anyone know if there is something about snow leopard that uses the hardware differently? So that whereas under leopard (32-bit) there may not have been a fault, but on switching to 10.6 a problem could reveal itself?

Mac Pro 1,1 2007, 2x 2.66 GHz Dual-Core, Mac OS X (10.6), 4 x 1Gb Apple RAM, 1x 500Gb WD Caviar, 2x Optiarc Superdrive, GeForce 7300 256Mb, Dual monitors

Posted on Sep 3, 2009 2:38 AM

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  • by Shutterspeed17,

    Shutterspeed17 Shutterspeed17 Oct 12, 2009 4:52 PM in response to wadjela
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    Oct 12, 2009 4:52 PM in response to wadjela
    Im having the same problem using Firefox as well...
  • by BobHarris,

    BobHarris BobHarris Oct 12, 2009 5:56 PM in response to Ashelyan
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    Oct 12, 2009 5:56 PM in response to Ashelyan
    You are talking to other Mac users in this forum.

    Apple feedback should be send to
    <http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html>

    If you have bugs to report you can also use
    <http://bugreporter.apple.com>
    Free ADC (Apple Developer Connection) account needed for BugReporter
  • by binfordxtreme,

    binfordxtreme binfordxtreme Oct 12, 2009 6:04 PM in response to Shutterspeed17
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    Oct 12, 2009 6:04 PM in response to Shutterspeed17
    in my desperation i tried one more thing (haha), i deleted my bootcamp partition and !whoop! even without a reboot sl went back to normal.
    ive three possible reasons for that:
    first maybe its some kind of simple bug in my ntfs driver? but actually i tried to different and also none. nothing helped.
    maybe its related to a just a bug in snow leopards way to handle several partitions at all?
    or its just the aditional space on the hd that pushes the triggerpoint for our fancy "beachballparty" backwards.

    still its just a stupid workarround because i need windows aswell.

    so, do you guys have several partitions on your hardisk? or more than one hd at all? just an idea...
  • by stephenpontes,

    stephenpontes stephenpontes Oct 12, 2009 10:19 PM in response to robrecord
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    Oct 12, 2009 10:19 PM in response to robrecord
    I had the freezing issue, used the snow leopard cache cleaner app and the issue seemed to be resolved.

    I recently reformatted and the issue is back. This is on a completely clean machine. I did, unfortunately, install a number of different third party apps.

    Let's see if anyone else shares any of these:

    - 1password
    - Logitech Control Center (Version 3.1 - messes up how your tabs look in safari)
    - Tweetie
    - Bowtie

    The Insert hang detected messaging is typically preceded by Tweetie for some reason, but I doubt that's the culprit. My guess thus far is the logitech control center - anyone else have this? Please say yes!
  • by Ashelyan,

    Ashelyan Ashelyan Oct 13, 2009 3:16 AM in response to BobHarris
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    Oct 13, 2009 3:16 AM in response to BobHarris
    Hi Bob,

    I have already sent the feedback to Apple team more than one time and no response, yet thanks for the information.

    It is just frustrating to have instability on your OS. Let us hope they come out with a proper release to fix the mentioned issues.

    Regards,

    A. Elyan
  • by blinkerfish,

    blinkerfish blinkerfish Oct 13, 2009 7:10 AM in response to Dale Weisshaar
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    Oct 13, 2009 7:10 AM in response to Dale Weisshaar
    resetting Safari and repairing permissions seems to have resolved my issues.
  • by Jabber Babaganosch,

    Jabber Babaganosch Jabber Babaganosch Oct 13, 2009 2:10 PM in response to blinkerfish
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    Oct 13, 2009 2:10 PM in response to blinkerfish
    Unfortunately not for me...

    I repaired permissions and re-installed Flash. The frequence in which the spinning wheel occurs is now less, but it is still there.

    BTW, the problem is not only Safari related, it also occurs in Firefox.

    Also, movies freeze for 15 - 20 seconds once or twice every hour (both - in Quicktime 10 and VLC).

    Very annoying problem. I hope it will be fixed with 10.6.2

    Fred
  • by Mojo66,

    Mojo66 Mojo66 Oct 13, 2009 2:29 PM in response to Jabber Babaganosch
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    Oct 13, 2009 2:29 PM in response to Jabber Babaganosch
    Jabber Babaganosch wrote:
    Also, movies freeze for 15 - 20 seconds once or twice every hour (both - in Quicktime 10 and VLC).


    While I got rid of the wheel of death most of the time, this is the only occasion when it comes back, strange. Must be some I/O that blocks the whole machine.
  • by nick mbp 2009,

    nick mbp 2009 nick mbp 2009 Oct 13, 2009 3:12 PM in response to Locomotivation
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    Oct 13, 2009 3:12 PM in response to Locomotivation
    I don't have (and have never had) any contextual menu extensions installed on my computer so that's not the issue.
  • by z1ross,

    z1ross z1ross Oct 13, 2009 7:57 PM in response to nick mbp 2009
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    Oct 13, 2009 7:57 PM in response to nick mbp 2009
    I find it hard for any new mac user (especially Converts) in the last 3 years to not have installed any contextual menu extensions. Most of the Major apps like Roxio Toast, Stuffit & Several others install extensions of different types. At the moment I'm sick with the flu and have a huge amount of work to do over the next week. If anyone really wants a hand tracking things down my ichat id is ZoeRoss, When I log into this id I'll have some spare tie to help.
  • by sas71,

    sas71 sas71 Oct 14, 2009 8:52 AM in response to z1ross
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    Oct 14, 2009 8:52 AM in response to z1ross
    I wonder if the following might play a role:

    http://db.tidbits.com/article/10643

    "The bug sounds minor, but it is really very important because Apple events are crucial to so much of what goes on under the hood in Mac OS X, and in any case it has caused everyone's scripts to break (whether written in AppleScript, rb-appscript, or anything else that sends Apple events). The underlying Apple event manager assigns a new return ID to every Apple event, and so sooner or later some Apple event is going to hit the magic FFFF value, and whatever sent that Apple event is going to error out, apparently randomly. You may even have seen such random errors on your machine without knowing it. Anyhow, it's an easy bug to understand, and there are already indications that Apple will roll a fix into the Mac OS X 10.6.2 update, whenever that comes out. What's hard to understand is how Apple came to inflict breakage on such a fundamental mechanism in the first place."

    But I guess it would be more widespread if it is. Plus it wouldn't really explain that the frequency of the hangs seems to increase the longer your uptime. That fact really gives the swap file theory some merit.

    -sas
  • by MacWorks,

    MacWorks MacWorks Oct 14, 2009 7:02 PM in response to robrecord
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    Oct 14, 2009 7:02 PM in response to robrecord
    Apple has released a "Performance Update" for certain Mac models. I was one of them. I've installed the update, but only 30 minutes has gone by. So far, so good.
  • by BigCat400,

    BigCat400 BigCat400 Oct 14, 2009 7:23 PM in response to MacWorks
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    Oct 14, 2009 7:23 PM in response to MacWorks
    This could be it. Funny how they describe the fix: "addresses hard drive stall reported by SMALL number of users"
  • by Dale Weisshaar,

    Dale Weisshaar Dale Weisshaar Oct 14, 2009 8:39 PM in response to robrecord
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    Oct 14, 2009 8:39 PM in response to robrecord
    Yes,

    Try downloading and installing this recently released Performance Update 1.0 for Snow Leopard (10.6).

     

    DALE

     

  • by MarkoB,

    MarkoB MarkoB Oct 15, 2009 12:19 AM in response to robrecord
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    Oct 15, 2009 12:19 AM in response to robrecord
    What about other models? I can't install the update on mine (early 2008 MBP) yet I have same problems as others
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