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Converting Appleworks Database to what?

Ok so when I was 13 I got and Apple IIc. Now some 6 Mac later I need help with a Appleworks Database I started way back them. I made a database that was basically a Diary. I had a field for the date, and three to enter my journal entries into. I would like to convert that to a different program, since Appleworks is all but dead to the world. I tried to do it in IWork '09 but it says that it doesn't read that format. What do I do? What program can I use? I have both iWork '09 and Microsoft Office 2004. Can I convert it in either and how... or do I need to get something different?

iMac G5 2GHz PowerPC 1 GB DDR SDRAM, Mac OS X (10.5.6), 60GB V iPod, CanoScan LIDE 20, Canon HD10&ZR40, Samsung ML 2010, Epson PictureMa

Posted on Sep 3, 2009 11:03 AM

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Sep 3, 2009 3:12 PM in response to Ryan Griffin

If your database is quite simple, then Bento would probably do, though it is much more limited than AppleWorks. Otherwise FileMaker Pro is the only practicable option. In both cases, as Peggy says, you will have to export as ASCII text and import into the new program; obviously you can only bring data over, not layouts or calculations.

More information on the subject here:

http://homepage.mac.com/rfwilmut/notes/aw/page5.html
http://homepage.mac.com/rfwilmut/notes/aw/page6.html
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Sep 4, 2009 7:41 AM in response to Ryan Griffin

There isn't any really compatible database program to AW database so you need to look at several options to keep at least the information you have in your AW database documents. Another suggestion apart from those mentioned above is iList. It is nothing fancy but among the databases I have tried out it seems workable.
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Sep 7, 2009 4:19 PM in response to Ryan Griffin

Consider TextEdit.

If your database has only four fields and is kept sorted, then export or copy/paste to TextEdit.

A TextEdit file is not interrupted by page breaks and, unlike some databases, has live scrolling, so it's faster than many apps at scrolling through a long list of data. And you can use Command-F to find a particular date or word. And you can display more of your journal entries on screen just by dragging the window wider - how many apps will do that? And you can add photos. And it's cheap.
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Sep 7, 2009 5:02 PM in response to Ryan Griffin

Hi,

I've been playing with sqlite. 10.5 and 10.6 comes with a sqlite database engine. You can access it using +Sqlite Database Browser+ or if you are using Firefox you can install a plugin +Sqlite Manager+.

It is not quite as simple as the Appleworks database. I have been able to able to import the data from my Appleworks database but it currently appears in a spreadsheet like table. You can run queries and views. Unfortunately, there is no forms but I've been playing a bit with html and javascript to see if I can create an input form which can add rows to the database and run reports.

I'm at the beginning stages so I don't know if it will work or not but everything is open source and it is simply costing me my time.

Hope this helps.
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Sep 7, 2009 5:15 PM in response to Francesco Rocca

Hi everyone, thank you so much for responding to my post. To answer all your questions, yes it is a very simple database.

Date
Journal Entry Part 1 (Appleworks/Clarisworks only allowed so many characters per entry)
Journal Entry Part 2 (incase it was too long for just one entry)
Journal Entry Part 3 (incase it was too long for 2 entries)
Journal Entry Part 4 (incase it was too long for 3 entries)
Holiday Name (I made up certain holidays to mark big occasions in my life)

Here's the problem.
I started this Diary back in 1985 (and even put in entries dating all the way back to my birth in 1972). It is 2009. It has thousands of pages... so Copy/Paste as so many of you have suggested would take forever to do.

I too hope that the DB is added to the next version of iWorks, but I'm not counting on it, and now that my mac which is non-intel bases is 4 years old, I'm concerned that when I get a new one... all of this data (basically my life's diary) will be worthless.) I don't plan on doing that until I have too. I'm just wondering if there is a way I can convert it to something else before it is too late.
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Sep 7, 2009 7:06 PM in response to Ryan Griffin

First of all, the best way to insure that your journal entries are preserved for your lifetime and your children's lifetime is to save it as a text file. Once your data is in a text file you'll have access to the data just as you did in the AppleWorks database - read it, edit it, add new entries, etc, you just can't sort it. Years from now, with AppleWorks long gone, you'll still be able to read what you did on 4/22/1985. And if sometime down the road you decide you want the data in a real database, if you keep that text file formatted as it is, same tabs and returns, then click-click it's in.

Second, copy and Paste takes seconds - select all the records, hit Command-C, open a TextEdit file, or any word processor or text editor, and hit Command-V. If there is a problem because of too many records then copy/paste them in smaller gulps, or just click Save As and choose ASCII Text.
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Sep 8, 2009 3:36 AM in response to Ryan Griffin

You could try Bento - there is a free trial, so it would cost you nothing to find out whether it's suitable (I don't know how it would react to thousands of entries).

The advice to keep it as a text file is a good one - it wouldn't be too much extra work to keep both a text file and a database - then whatever happens you will still be able to access it.
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Sep 8, 2009 5:04 AM in response to Roger Wilmut1

I'll give Bento a try... it's free after all. Although I've never heard of it, so I doubt it'll be around in 5 years. I will make a Text File file backup. You are all right that it's easy and it'll save it in a form that will be usable if need be in the future. I didn't really realize how powerful a tool Appleworks is. I wonder why they've abandoned it. I still like it way more than Office.
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Oct 20, 2009 10:46 PM in response to Ryan Griffin

First, take your file and burn it on a CD or DVD. Back it up on an external harddrive too. I'm a belt and suspenders kind of person.

As you've read, nothing will read/convert an Appleworks database file into anything to continue using it as a database file. I've looked into a few things (Filemaker for one) and thus am still using Appleworks 6.2.9. I really need my databases.

You can also consider printing the whole darn thing. Yes, lots of paper for hardcopy but it's a sure fire way to preserve it. Set up a layout to save the most paper. When you're done you might consider using the Levenger Circa system to punch the pages and put it in an attractive leather circa journal.

Then...consider switching to a blog. You can keep it private and never publish it. I started by using software I downloaded to my computer. That way I can save the file and it's never published. Or I can opt to publish it. Now I just use Wordpress, Blogger or Livejournal. Livejournal has it's moments, but you can use the "personal" option each time so it's private and no one ever sees it.

I'm still waiting for that iWorks database that will convert all of my Appleworks database files. But I'm not holding my breath.
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Oct 22, 2009 8:26 PM in response to Mary Laiuppa

mlaiuppa wrote:
I'm still waiting for that iWorks database that will convert all of my Appleworks database files. But I'm not holding my breath.


Unless Apple decides for some reason to change the name of the iWork package, you'll wait forever for a database component to "iWorks", mlaiuppa. 😉

It's "iWork" (no "s").

But not holding ones breath while waiting for an iWork database also seems to be advice worth taking.

Regards,
Barry
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Oct 23, 2009 9:52 AM in response to Barry

What is really boring is that creating a database for iWork would noy be difficult.

Take FileMaker, remove the components allowing it to exchange datas thru the Web, Reduce it to a single user app like iWork components and you have what we need.

When I learnt that FileMaker was working on a low cost product, I thought that they where building what I described.
In fact they just mimic my grand mother shoebox and sold it under the name Bentoy.

Yvan KOENIG (VALLAURIS, France) vendredi 23 octobre 2009 18:52:19
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