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My ears are ringing from blast of white noise from Logic 9

NEVER had this happen in Logic 8 (or any other software for that matter) on same hardware.. Not only can you not OPEN Logic 9 by clicking on a logic 9 file, SAVE in Logic 9 without it putting audio out of sync, now I discover you cannot RECORD for more than a few minutes without getting a blast of white noise. Seriously, my ears are still ringing 8 hours later from this noise. If they are still ringing Monday I am going to the hearing specialist and Apple WILL be paying the bill. I pray no serious damage has been done and that I will still be able to do mastering work. If I monitor through Logic, even at 128 the monitored audio will occasionally slip out of sync and there will be like a 2 second delay in the monitored audio, then eventually a deafening blast of white noise. To release software in this untested state is totally negligent, irresponsible and downright dangerous. Disgraceful.

Mac Pro 266 4 gig Ram - AMT8 - Tascam DM4800 with Firewire - Lots Of Guitars, Mac OS X (10.5.7), UAD 2 Card - M-Audio Keystation 88 Pro

Posted on Sep 4, 2009 2:13 PM

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Mar 23, 2011 1:02 AM in response to Mr Pandamonium

I've had this problem too, but for me it was the PLAY engine in Logic. I noticed that the blast would only happen when a PLAY instrument was triggered during playback. It even happened when I was adjusting the velocity in the piano roll of a PLAY instrument note. Unfortunately I had to stop using that engine altogether, but I've been white-noise-blast free ever since.

I can't speak to the problems that folks are having with Final Cut, but there's something terribly wrong somewhere.

Mar 24, 2011 9:43 AM in response to bradleyk

Mmm, Core Audio problem sounds like it might be along the right track? I've been having the deafening sound whilst previewing noise reduction in Soundtrack Pro 2.2. I've never encountered it in STP 1.3, which I've been using because I don't trust STP 2.2 to not smash my ears and my 100 quid headphones. Sadly stp 1.3 has stopped working properly.
I've not hit the problem in FCP studio 2, but I hardly ever use it. If only Premiere had an audio editor as good as Soundtrack Pro as well.... 😟

Mar 27, 2011 2:48 PM in response to Mr Pandamonium

OK, I may have figured this out for myself but I don't know if this applies to anybody else. I have the free demo TC Electronic M30 Reverb plugin saved as inserts in a couple of projects. I think that's what's been blasting white noise in my case. It does that if you try to scroll through all the reverb programs on it and maybe it also does it after a certain amount of time in use or something. I may be right out to lunch, and this is not going to help anybody, but are any of you using that free demo TC software plug-in?

Apr 7, 2011 9:40 AM in response to iSchwartz

I'm not sure if you or anyone has encounter something like it. It happened right after I transfer the export file to 320 bpm MP3 and listen to a track at a medium if not low volume (no blast at all.) I'm not sure if there is a low frequency or sound that emits while playing a track at 320 bpm MP3 format. It's been a day and my ears still ringing specially when fan motors are on, cars pass by, and some other type of noises. I don't believe is that severe to loose sleep for, at least not for now. I'll stay away from listening to anything, maybe it'll completely go away slowly (Hopefully permanently.)
This has hinder my appreciation for Music, for now =(

Questions or comments feel more than free to reach me and or share.

Apr 19, 2011 1:42 PM in response to Mr Pandamonium

Yes.. I had this happen to me in L8 a few months ago. It scared the sh*t out of me and I, too, had ringing in my ears for a few hours after. I already have a bit of damage from touring.. and I'm in my mid-40s now, so every bit of hearing I have is precious. Bummer so many have suffered this experience. Generally, however, the awesomeness of Logic FAR FAR outweighs the issues I've experienced, IMHO.

Jun 5, 2011 3:53 AM in response to Mr Pandamonium

This has just now happened to me for the first time in Logic Pro 9.

Was working on a tune that I've been working on for a little under a week. Left the computer to go watch a bit of TV, maybe for around 15 minutes, came back, had a look at a few effects plugins and when I pressed play I was met with the horrendous distorted audio. I ripped my headphones off and turned down the Mac's volume. Now too worried to use it again..


Can I just note that I've had Logic 9 for a while now and so gradually updated as they've come and have never experienced this before. I knew about it long ago from these threads but assumed I was just lucky. I don't think the problem has come or gone during any Logic or OSX updates.


There is nothing I've updated/downloaded recently enough that i think could have caused this to happen. Therefore, I believe the problem lies somewhere in the Core, and not an update/external plugin. Perhaps, as I left the computer for a while it was something to do with the computer going to sleep?


I will write to Apple, as this is not acceptable. I urge all others to contact them too. All energies should be placed into a solution. They were keen to fix the iPhone problem when they feared loss of sales due to the reception issues. This should be no different - infact, it's a billion times more important!


FWIW, I have a Macbook Pro Intel Core i7, OSX10.6.7, 7200 500GB SATA HDD..

Jun 5, 2011 8:37 AM in response to kapeh

I said this long ago, but maybe it pays saying it again: I've had this RECORDED blast of white noise usually at the end of the file back in Logic 4 when using Lexicon Core32 and Aardvark something... Never happened with Audiowerk8 (I even used AW8 and Aardvark at the same time on a PII 333!), and never again since I switched to RME. I've had 3 Multifaces and one Fireface800. I've run these on the following machines: PIII 500, Athlon 1200, PIV 2,3, PIV 2,66 (portable HP), Macbook Pro 2,3,. The PCs were running Logic 5, on the MBP I've run Logic 7, 8 and 9. It never happened again. I even ran Logic 7 in the PIV (hacked) during some time, using both USB and FW400 and also FW800 external HD. NEVER had the problem again.

This leads me to suspect there is a problem with the soundcards you`re using or with the drivers. Of course I can be wrong, but in my case I'm 99,95% sure it was the soundcards. Maybe something in the program too, but as it's my program of choice I buy soundcards that work well with it in the first place.

Hope this helps a little.

Jun 5, 2011 10:09 AM in response to JofishSamuel

>Left the computer to go watch a bit of TV, maybe for around 15 minutes, came back, had a look

>at a few effects plugins and when I pressed play I was met with the horrendous distorted audio.


This presumes the computer went to sleep.

What you describe is a classic case of the audio hardware losing sync, however, under no circumstances should Logic allow a high decibel blast of noise to occur.


Also, looking at the replies there's at least two (maybe more) white noise scenarios.


1. White noise that's recorded on a track but not heard while recording,

2. A blast of white noise when hitting play.


pancenter-

Jun 21, 2011 7:57 AM in response to Mr Pandamonium

I haven't used Logic, but in Final Cut, every single time I've had this problem, it's been traceable to a mismatch between the sequence bitrate and the bitrate of some audio file in the sequence (usually a music or sound effect track).


To solve, first check your sequence settings, and make sure Audio -> Rate = 48 kHz. Then look through all sound files in the sequence (and, obviously, the sound in video files). To check them, open in Quicktime and look under format.


I almost guarantee you'll find some stray piece of audio that's set to 44000 Hz, 22050 Hz, or some other number that isn't 48000 Hz [note: 1 kHz = 1000 Hz].


So just open it in some audio editor (Soundtrack Pro works but is overkill, Quicktime Pro or the freeware program Switch are probably better), and export it as a 48000 Hz file.


And enjoy life!

Jun 21, 2011 4:52 PM in response to McKleinfeld

McKleinfeld wrote:


I haven't used Logic, but in Final Cut, every single time I've had this problem, it's been traceable to a mismatch between the sequence bitrate and the bitrate of some audio file in the sequence (usually a music or sound effect track).


To solve, first check your sequence settings, and make sure Audio -> Rate = 48 kHz. Then look through all sound files in the sequence (and, obviously, the sound in video files). To check them, open in Quicktime and look under format.


I almost guarantee you'll find some stray piece of audio that's set to 44000 Hz, 22050 Hz, or some other number that isn't 48000 Hz [note: 1 kHz = 1000 Hz].


So just open it in some audio editor (Soundtrack Pro works but is overkill, Quicktime Pro or the freeware program Switch are probably better), and export it as a 48000 Hz file.


And enjoy life!

While it's possible there is a relationship, Logic handles samplerates differently than FCP auto converting when it needs to.


Also, the Logic/Core Audio white noise problem can happen in several different scenarios. Sometimes it happens during recording and the noise is recorded onto the audio track, other times a burst of white noise can happen with no indication.


pancenter-

Jul 28, 2011 8:11 AM in response to Mr Pandamonium

I have had this problem in Soundtrack Pro a number of times on my MacPro. Last time was about a year ago. NOW, I just had it on my MacBook Pro while listening to a radio station on ITunes. Right channel went out. Closed and restarted ITunes and got the blast from the right channel. (Glad I wasn't wearing headphones like the first time on STP.) This is telling me it is something internal to the Mac sound engine or OSX and not related to any application software.

This is a serious ear health issue.

Fred C

MacBookPro 2.5GHz Intel Core 2 Duo

OS X 10.6.8

ITunes 10.3.1

My ears are ringing from blast of white noise from Logic 9

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