Snow Leopard Unstable

After a week of trying to stabilize SL on new 15" MBP, 8 GB RAM, 3.06, 500 GB HD, I give up. I have spent hours on the phone with Apple Support. Granted they have all been great to deal with. But there is some serious issues with this OS release. I have 64 bit apps, Finder, Safari, Mail all becoming unresponsive. I have rebuilt from scratch 3 times. You know how painful that is!

I am rebuilding but staying with L. I have let everyone I know that they should NOT try SL at this time. Wait for the first .x release. It does not increase performance, it is just the opposite.

MBP 15, Mac OS X (10.5.8), Fully Loaded New MBP

Posted on Sep 5, 2009 11:23 AM

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Sep 5, 2009 11:35 AM in response to DeWayne1

I'm sure that is true for you (otherwise why would you have put this here. 🙂 ). I've done the opposite and recommend it to anyone. All the machines that I've installed it on have gone flawlessly for me.

I'm sorry that you have had problems with it. That really stinks. Hopefully you will figure out what is happening with your install. You can probably find plenty of help online or here in the forums.

Have you tried just wiping the (a) drive and install it and then check the basic apps that are installed by default and then start adding your other apps one at a time to see where the issue starts? I know that is a pain in the butt. However, it may point to the issue for you.

Peace,
Iggy

Message was edited by: James Schnoor

Sep 5, 2009 12:19 PM in response to DeWayne1

Likely for the vast majority SL works just fine. This is a user-to-user group where we try to help one another or find relevant information. You are no doubt having troubles so why not ask for help while here instead of just telling others they should not try SL? To only vent and not ask for help makes no sense.

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Sep 5, 2009 12:34 PM in response to pogster

. . . and in a user to user support group, is it not relevant information to find that many people have had unsolvable difficulties and are reverting to Leopard? I think it is.
In my own case, my installation went flawlessly on my Mac Book Pro, but after 2 days of reading what is happening to other people with their installations, I am holding off doing the upgrade on my Mac Pro 8-Core which I make a living with.

and . . . .

In my case, on my Mac Book Pro, I see no benefit for having made the upgrade. I even went back to the Apple web site and checked the "Improved Features list" to see if I was missing something. Non of the improved features, +to me,+ are worth the risk of the upgrade. I did the upgrade on my Mac Book Pro primarily for the speed increase that is prominently mentioned by Apple - sorry, don't see it on the Mac Book Pro that I did the install on . . . and in a user-to-user group, I think that info might be of interest to other users.

Sep 5, 2009 1:00 PM in response to Meg The Dog

MacIntouch, MacFixit, AccelerateYourMac have all posted tips for troubleshooting, reviews and more.

If my memory serves me, you'll find 10% of users with various problems, but even 3-5% can be a lot.

DNS, Mail, printers, if you have trouble getting online that could be a deal-breaker. Iffy driver support - vendors can't all be expected to be ready. Some controllers may not be supported.

There are no OpenCL optimized applications, that will take time. There are benefits for the high-end to 64-bit kernel mode.

Mac Extended HFS+ is possibly more sensitive to underlying disk I/O errors and problems, which is needed and good. RAM that worked with older system - will always be some that now falls into the "failed" or marginal if not down-right "bad RAM" category.

SL Performance:
http://macperformanceguide.com/SnowLeopard-Performance.html

MacIntouch Report (covers a lot):
http://www.macintouch.com/specialreports/snowleopard/

I've never seen X.0 that wasn't in need of some major improvements, some that could be strong enough to hold off on buying or installing - or install, but only as a test and not over your only working system.

Oct 20, 2009 2:13 PM in response to DeWayne1

Since I upgraded to SL 10.6.1 my microsoft apps have become unstable; my macbook pro unexpectedly re-boots when I am cutting and pasting (has occurred in word, powerpoint and excel). My software is up to date and I do not have a virus. The migration to SL was easy and smooth and all else runs great. Has anyone else had this problem and or does anyone have a suggestion/fix?

Dec 24, 2009 8:24 PM in response to DeWayne1

After two years of excellent stability with Leopard on my 24" iMac, I moved to Snow Leopard and lost the ability to see networked PCs and started experiencing the type of multiple daily application crashes reported in this thread. After doing a lot of searching it appears that the problems may be related to poor implementation of network file sharing in 10.6. This may explain why some see excellent stability and others who have networked Macs are seeing crashes.

I found a blog on iLounge that may be useful at http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/backstage/comments/two-proposed-solutions-to-sn ow-leopard-crash-problems-on-macs/. After following Solution B this morning, I have not had any application crashes all day - a new record since going to 10.6. Unfortunately, my Mac still cannot see any of my networked PCs or my NAS drive so I still have to decide whether it is worth the trouble and time it will take to go back to Leopard.

Interesting to hear whether others having problems with Snow Leopard have File Sharing turned on and if those reporting no problems do not.

By the way, when I went to Snow Leopard, I did a complete clean install instead of an upgrade and tried all the standard fixes, Safe Boot, Repair Disk Permissions, Repair Disk, Repair Permissions and nothing helped until now.

If what the folks at iLounge turn out to be correct, Apple should be ashamed of themselves for screwing up file sharing, which worked so well in Leopard, so badly.

Joel

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