Headphone recommended

Hi,

what's the Headphone model do you highly recommended for Mixing and Mastering to a Home Studio engineer?

Posted on Sep 6, 2009 10:44 AM

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Sep 6, 2009 11:22 AM in response to Ray1018

My bottom line is a Beyer DT 770, but I have and use four different ones, AKG, Sony, Superlux ⚠, Philips etc etc. But I also second the stern fatherly warning by Bill regarding using monitors. If you have to, keep it short (max 30 minutes on Pro cans) and if you can't keep it short, get three different ones. One for 20 coins (pounds, dollars, euro's, whatever), one for 75 coins (prosumer hifi) and one Studio Pro Quality (roughly around 150 coins and up).
As soon as you like how something sounds on your headphones, it is time to switch to the monitors to check.

Sep 6, 2009 12:11 PM in response to Ray1018

Grado Labs, minimum SR-80 for just under $100, anything model above that is worth it, but don't forget to have a halfway decent headphone amp. I often encounter really bad headphone amps, it's a typical item for companies to skimp on. And when I say bad, I mean stuff like the left-right balance changes as you turn up the volume because the channels aren't ganged correctly at the pot (volume knob). Headphones are overly revealing, and it takes a decent amount of practice to get it right, and should probably never be done exclusively. Don't forget that we use more than our ears to hear with. We detect the source of a low frequency just as much with our skin as our ears, and the loss of that input is hard to overcome at first when evaluating the low frequencies.

Also remember that many headphones need up to 100 hours of break-in before the high frequencies mellow out, so you can't really know if you like your new pair right off the bat. You have to break them in.

For the last 5 years, my company has been hard at work making audio exclusively for headphones. There is an interesting free demo at http://www.naturespace.com, and we have a free iPhone app as well. I don't mean to put this in as a shameless plug, it's really that there is a lot of information about headphones and sound in general that I wish to share. Headphones are my passion. And I used Logic to make everything I have done.

It is likely that if you pursue headphones as a monitoring tool, that you will ultimately buy several pair before you find the ones that you understand well. But they are a lot cheaper than speakers. Just don't skimp on the amp. Very important for clinical use.

Sep 6, 2009 12:25 PM in response to Ray1018

wow..thanks to all..

I try to use the 8" studio monitor for Mastering..but can't get the right estimation final tune especially on Low Frequency...Shall i add a Sub for that case to get the clear Low ?

So,Beyer Dynamic DT150, Sennheiser HD25(s'ld be 250??),Beyer DT 770...how much do these cost?? Do you guys go with Headphone amp and why do need it?

Sep 6, 2009 12:52 PM in response to Ray1018

Many headphone amps that are built into a halfway decent audio interface seem to be fine, it's consumer amps and stereos that are the worst offenders. But the amp in my MOTU 828mkII is often good enough for most tasks. So it depends on your interface.

As far as subs go, it can be tricky because the room becomes resonant and it can just make things harder to understand. Maybe upgrading to a 10 inch driver would be enough. It also depends on the kind of music you are making.

Also keep in mind the 2 basic types of headphones, open and closed. You can't use open for tracking in front of a mic so you need closed for that, but personally I can't mix on closed headphones, which is why I like the Grados, which are open.

Sep 6, 2009 1:38 PM in response to Ray1018

*if you are serious and or stuck with mixing and mastering with headphones i would only suggest the obvious three things.....*




1. One HIGH QUALITY DA Converter.....




2. Headphones - Sony MDR 7506's - the industry standard.....

http://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/product-MDR7506/




3. Headphone Amp completely built for Mixing and Mastering - SPL PHONITOR

http://www.soundperformancelab.com/index.php?id=357&L=1




be sure and read all the info on the SPL PHONITOR ... vital info...






all the best.....

Sep 6, 2009 4:03 PM in response to WarriorAnt

yeah yeah yeah,,, its all due to personal preference,,, but when it comes to headphones you have to be careful to not use something that has a colored response... more importantly is the headphone amp and DA thats being used..... hence why i suggested a solid DA and SPL Phonitor.....


for once i would like to see responses that aid the discussion,, rather than make it a debate....

Sep 6, 2009 7:25 PM in response to justinscottdixon

"Be careful not to use something that has a colored response" and with that you offer the Sony MDR 7506? We used to give them to interns just for logging recording.

Yes the DAC and headphone amp is important but not anymore important than the headphones either.

A solid state amp does not necessarily mean neutrality. Plenty of todays tube amps produce sound that rivals solid state and many even surpass them. I have heard plenty of solid state amps that screech like there is no tomorrow.

Also there is more to mixing than sound pressure levels.

I do not consider this response a debate but actually something that aids the discussion.

Normally I wouldn't even respond to this topic because it is such a hot bed issue but years of having ENG's force "Industry standard" down my throat as if that had anything to do with good quality sound really gets me going.

In 24 years of mixing I have found that "industry standard" means the ENG doesn't know what actually sounds good so he designed what everyone else is using and every else is using it because its the "Industry standard. This hapens because a house would rather be "industry compatible" than risk offering a client something else. Its a deafening cycle of bad quality gear. Industry standard.

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