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Maximum size for burning music CD?

I have recorded a meeting of 90 minutes on an external audio digital recorder, uploaded and converted the file from WMA to mp3, and put it in iTunes library. Now I want to burn it to a cd that can be played on either a computer or cd player. The cds say they can hold 80 minutes/700 MB. If the file is less than 700 MB, even if 90 minutes, will the whole thing burn on the cd? If not, I was told I should compress the file, which would "degrade" it a little, but the voices would still be intelligible, which is all I need. Does anyone know if I need to do this and, if so, how to do it? Any help would be appreciated very much. Thanks, JG

MacBook, Mac OS X (10.5.8)

Posted on Sep 7, 2009 5:20 PM

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Sep 7, 2009 6:36 PM in response to ed2345

Thank you. That is a very useful and clear distinction. Now do you know how I could compress the file so the full 90 minutes could be burned onto a cd that would play in a regular cd player? Also, if I burned it as a data cd 1) would I use the same kind of disk and 2) could everyone play it on their computer, whether they had a cd or mac? Having it so it could be played on either computer or cd player would be better, but I want to understand all the options here and your first answer was very clear on the point you made. Thank you. JG

Sep 7, 2009 6:54 PM in response to Jill Gardner

Jill Gardner wrote:
Thank you. That is a very useful and clear distinction.


You are welcome.

Now do you know how I could compress the file so the full 90 minutes could be burned onto a cd that would play in a regular cd player?


Split it into Part 1 and Part 2. Personally, this is what I would recommend.

Also, if I burned it as a data cd 1) would I use the same kind of disk


Yes, the same blank CD-R can be used for data.

and 2) could everyone play it on their computer, whether they had a cd or mac?


If you burn it in MP3 format, it can be played on any computer, and also in certain car players that handle MP3 CDs. But, alas, not on a regular CD player.

Sep 7, 2009 9:02 PM in response to Jill Gardner

The problem is your file is in mp3 format which is not the format used with audio CDs which are the kind of CD that can be played by almost anything. You have 90 minutes of audio in one file. That has to be converted to CD audio format for a conventional CD and that format is pretty rigid. There is no compression available for audio CDs and 80 minutes is the maximum. The only way to make 90 minutes fit on a conventional CD is to split it into multiple parts of less than 80 minutes each and make multiple CDs.

As for splitting, I haven't tried this but I have read about this method on this forum. Get info in itunes on the file you wish to split. The options tab lets you specify a start play time and stop play time. Select a stop play time less than 80 minutes. Close the get info window. Now in the preferences window select a conversion format as AIFF. Close the preferences window, select your file and convert the format to AIFF. A new file will be created which only has the duration you selected. Go back and do a second conversion on the remaining time. Now you can select each of these AIFF files or burning to a CD.

Sep 8, 2009 4:34 AM in response to Jill Gardner

Jill Gardner wrote:
Thank you again. If it is one file, how do I split it into part 1 and part 2?


First, figure out where you want the break to be. Right-click the file, Get Info, go to the Options tab, and select the Start and Stop times for Part 1, then save it. In the library, highlight the track then choose Advanced > Create MP3 version. That will create a new individual file of just Part 1, which you can burn to audio CD in the normal fashion.

Back to the original file, right-click, set the Start and Stop for Part 2, and save. In the library, highlight the track then choose Advanced > Create MP3 version. That will create a new individual file of just Part 2, which you can burn to audio CD in the normal fashion.

The above assumes you want to create audio CDs that can play in any player. If your audience will be happy with an MP3 CD, which can be used in a computer but not in a regular player, then you can fit it all on one disc. That is up to you.

Note added: Forgot you were on a Mac. Where I said right-click, use option-click.

Message was edited by: ed2345

Sep 8, 2009 6:28 AM in response to ed2345

First, figure out where you want the break to be. Right-click the file, Get Info, go to the Options tab, and select the Start and Stop times for Part 1, then save it. In the library, highlight the track then choose Advanced > Create MP3 version. That will create a new individual file of just Part 1, which you can burn to audio CD in the normal fashion.

ed2345 gives you basically the same instructions I gave you so it looks like I got it right. However, ed2345 has you create another mp3 files from the original mp3 file instead of making an AIFF file. I cannot say for certain but I believe when you do this with itunes, itunes will re-encode the file, not just trim it (use mp3Trimmer if you want to do that). Whenever you mp3 encode a file you lose quality. If your ultimate goal was to have two mp3 files then you'd need to accept quality loss by creating a new mp3 file. Since your ultimate goal is an audio CD, by creating an AIFF file you don't have any quality loss (but do end up with a large file which you might delete afterward).

Note added: Forgot you were on a Mac. Where I said right-click, use option-click.

If you're using a two button mouse on a Mac, right-click also works. 🙂

Sep 8, 2009 7:57 PM in response to ed2345

Well, thank you both. I think I can figure it out from here. But just to be sure . . . if I decide to just make a cd that has to be played on a computer rather than a regular cd player, is my only concern that the file be under 700 MG?

If I go for the regular cd, I think I understand that I will need two disks and your instructions seem pretty clear for how to split the file. If I tried to do it on one without splitting it, would it simply lop off the last 10 minutes or would the whole thing not work?

Sep 8, 2009 8:25 PM in response to Jill Gardner

To clarify...
An audio CD can be played on a "regular" CD/DVD player and a computer.
Amount of info on an audio CDs is determined by the length of the audio, not the size of the files.
A data CD/DVD can be whatever will fit on the CD/DVD. These can be played on computers and CD/DVD players that will play the type if files you pu on it.
These can be (with iTunes) MP3, AAC, WAV, AIFF and Apple Lossless. Amount of info on a data CD/DVD is determined by the size of the files, not the length.
if I decide to just make a cd that has to be played on a computer rather than a regular cd player, is my only concern that the file be under 700 MG?

Your only convern is that the file size is smaller than the CD.
700MB of MP3/AAC files (as in audiobooks) would be about 70 hours.
If I go for the regular cd, I think I understand that I will need two disks and your instructions seem pretty clear for how to split the file. If I tried to do it on one without splitting it, would it simply lop off the last 10 minutes or would the whole thing not work?

It would tell you that the playlist will not fit and you need to make ist smaller.

Sep 8, 2009 8:38 PM in response to Jill Gardner

If I tried to do it on one without splitting it, would it simply lop off the last 10 minutes or would the whole thing not work?

It would warn you that the selection will not fit on one CD. Since it is one track it might just refuse to proceed at that stage (I'm not sure without having tried it). If were more than one track exceeding a single CD length it would fit what it could onto one CD and then put the rest onto the second one. This happened to me recently and I ended up with a full first CD and about 10 minutes on a second CD.

Sep 8, 2009 9:46 PM in response to Limnos

Since the files I'm concerned with will usually be only 90 minutes, or three hours if I do two at once, the 700 MB limit is not a problem. If I am making the cd for computer playing, after converting it with Switch to an mp3 file, can I just drag it to a blank cd, burn it and it will play on any compuer? Or do I need to put the mp3 file in iTunes, put that in a play list, and burn from there onto a disk in mp3 format? (Sorry I have so many questions.)

Sep 8, 2009 10:08 PM in response to Jill Gardner

can I just drag it to a blank cd, burn it and it will play on any compuer?

Yes, assuming the application you use can play MP3 files (most will).
Or do I need to put the mp3 file in iTunes,

No.
If I am making the cd for computer playing, after converting it with Switch to an mp3 file

Since it is already in iTunes and already an MP3 file, just select MP3/Data CD when you select Burn in iTunes.

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