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No Automator plug-in in 10.6?

Hello everybody,

Tonight, I went to use some of my contextual Automator actions in the finder, and found that menu item missing. After browsing possible solutions for over an hour, the main problem seems to be that Automator Version 2.1 (246) doesn't have the option to "Save as plug-in".

All of my existing automator actions are still in the correct system folder, but the contextual menu doesn't have those choices, and apparently can't be restored.

Does anyone know the solution?
Thank you.

24-inch iMac (Aluminum/Glass 3.06 Ghz), Mac OS X (10.5.3), Latest versions of all Apple software

Posted on Sep 9, 2009 6:18 AM

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Posted on Sep 9, 2009 6:37 AM

old style contextual menu plugins are completely gone in Snow leopard. they have been replaced by services. you can create an service using automator (you have to choose to do so when you start creating a workflow, not at the end when you do 'save as'). then you can activate this service in system preferences->keyboard->keyboard shortcuts and it will become available as a conetxtual menu in all relevant applications.
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Sep 9, 2009 6:37 AM in response to Mike James3

old style contextual menu plugins are completely gone in Snow leopard. they have been replaced by services. you can create an service using automator (you have to choose to do so when you start creating a workflow, not at the end when you do 'save as'). then you can activate this service in system preferences->keyboard->keyboard shortcuts and it will become available as a conetxtual menu in all relevant applications.

Sep 9, 2009 11:26 AM in response to V.K.

Although you have to do a little recreation, it is really worth it. After you've converted your Finder Automator applications to Services, when you select a file or folder and right click, your Service is available at the bottom of the Contextual Menu, no navigating sideways thru hierarchical folders for several steps (go to More, go to Automator, go to Finder, select action...ARGGHHH!...what a pain). I'm using my own Automator actions again. This is definitely a big improvement!
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Sep 14, 2009 8:23 PM in response to V.K.

"you can create an service using automator (you have to choose to do so when you start creating a workflow, not at the end when you do 'save as')."

Working with Automator that's NOT running under SL, there is no NEW "service" option so there seems no way create Workflows that will run on SL.

Did Apple relize that REMOVING a way a Workflow works makes it impossible to create a single flow that works on ALL recent versions of OS X?

Worse, I see no way of using SERVICES on a specific folder. Of course, I don't have SL. So that means two sets of documentation to end-users of flows.

Sep 14, 2009 9:46 PM in response to Steve Mullen

Would someone be willing to walk me through the process of making "Make Names Web Friendly" into a Finder Service? Once I've seen how to do it, I'm sure I'll understand.

I've downloaded the action from Apple. When I open Automator, I see it (and my older ones) in the directory. I select "Service", open the file, and save it. But so far, it's not visible in Services. I could use a little help, if one of you has the time.

Thanks in advance!

Sep 24, 2009 4:13 AM in response to Mike James3

Excuse the bump, but I'm still hoping that someone would be willing to walk me through creating a "Service" in Automator. (an example with the "Make Names Web Friendly" workflow would be ideal, as this was my most important one in Leopard. Nothing I've tried will make the functions appear in the Finder contextual menu, and even when it appears in the Services menu, it doesn't function.

Thanks in advance to anyone who will help.

Sep 24, 2009 4:36 AM in response to jmdev24

Thanks very much. I've actually already visited all the Automator/Services-related links I could find. The problem is that the procedure described doesn't seem to work. (Unless I'm messing some small step, which is why I've requested the walk-through)

Here's a screenshot, taken just now, ( http://www.mikejamesmedia.com/automatorissue092409.jpg )which shows several things...
• The workflow is checked in System Preferences/Services Preferences.
• The file exists where it should in my User/Library/Automator folder.
• The item does NOT appear in the Services pull-down, although I've selected an image in the finder.

So, does anyone know how to make this work. It was very simple in Leopard.
Thanks again.

Sep 24, 2009 6:03 AM in response to Mike James3

you are not creating the workflow as a service which is why it's not working. when you first start automator it gives you a screen where you can choose what type of workflow you want to make. at that screen you must choose to create a service. you created a regular workflow which is wrong and you can not change it later. so you youud to redo it from the beginning. when you save it it will be automatically activated asa service and placed in ~/library Services (not in ~/library/automator).

Sep 24, 2009 6:11 AM in response to V.K.

Right, (in the screenshot) but I've done that as one of the tests.

I have tried various methods, using the "Create Service" option you describe. But if you open a new "blank" service, the only way I can find to use one of the existing ones is to copy and paste it from another Automator window. This didn't work for me, which is why I'm still asking for a simple walk-thru of the method that should be used. (I've been using Apple computers since the Apple II, and am quite Mac-saavy, so this isn't a standard "newbie" error.)

The site that creates the "Make Names Web Friendly" file says that Automator isn't even required, when using one of their files. (like all those on the Apple "Automator Actions" Downloads page) They say that dropping the file into the User/Library/Automator folder will do it.

None of these is working for me. A step-by-step demonstration would be extremely helpful.

Thanks again to anyone who can help.

Sep 24, 2009 6:31 AM in response to Mike James3

a simple walk-thru.
1. start automator.
2. in the popup select "service".
3. go to library->utilities section in the left pane in automator and double-click on "run apple script" action.
4. copy and paste your applescript into that action.
5. set the conditions of the service (input type and what applications it's for) and save.

Sep 24, 2009 6:37 AM in response to Mike James3

I looked at the "Make Names Web Friendly" that I got here
http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/automator/makenameswebfriendly.html

and they make it even easier than what I described because they provide the actual automator actions for you.

step-by-step.
1. download the dmg from the link above and mount it.
2. double-click on the action "Make Names Web Friendly". this will add it to your automator library so it will be available as a standalone action.
3. go to the folder "snow leopard services" on the mounted dmg and double-click on the service "Make Names Web Friendly". It will open the service in an automator window.
4. save the service.

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Sep 24, 2009 6:51 AM in response to V.K.

Thank you for those examples.

After following your steps exactly, the action now appears in the "Services" menu, as well as the Finder contextual menu. (That's an improvement.) But… The script (which I've used for quite a while on Leopard) now fails with an error report.

*Trying the second "easier" method, the installation issue finally shows itself… (Thank you!)*

I've been mounting the JuneCloud DMG, then dragging just the "Make Names Web-Friendly" file out onto the desktop, and trying the method above, rather than double-clicking it.

Anyway… Following this second method makes both the contextual menu and the Services menu function correctly, so I cannot thank you enough for your efforts.

Now, maybe someone else with this problem can use your fix, too.
Thanks very much for the solution!

Sep 24, 2009 7:25 AM in response to Mike James3

Mike James3 wrote:
Thank you for those examples.

After following your steps exactly, the action now appears in the "Services" menu, as well as the Finder contextual menu. (That's an improvement.) But… The script (which I've used for quite a while on Leopard) now fails with an error report.

things have changed in Snow leopard from leopard so it's no great surprise that an apple script might need to be modified to work in snow leopard correctly. I can not say more without seeing the details of the script but there is no need because now you have an automator action in your library that you can use instead of the script.
*Trying the second "easier" method, the installation issue finally shows itself… (Thank you!)*

I've been mounting the JuneCloud DMG, then dragging just the "Make Names Web-Friendly" file out onto the desktop, and trying the method above, rather than double-clicking it.

instead of double-clicking you can also put the workflow "Make Names Web-Friendly" (not the service "Make Names Web-Friendly") in ~/library/automator. then after you restart automator this action will be available in the list of all automator actions and you can add it to any services or workflows. double-clicking does the same thing.
Anyway… Following this second method makes both the contextual menu and the Services menu function correctly, so I cannot thank you enough for your efforts.

Now, maybe someone else with this problem can use your fix, too.
Thanks very much for the solution!

you are welcome.

Sep 24, 2009 9:47 AM in response to V.K.

things have changed in Snow leopard from leopard so it's no great surprise that an apple script might need to be modified to work in snow leopard correctly.


Just wanted to chime in here--I was recently helping someone who wanted to use Doug's old Applescript/Automator method for adding lyrics you find on the web to the lyric's pane in iTunes. The poster couldn't figure out how to convert the old workflow into a service. In tinkering with it I discovered the fault was in the Applescript. Not being especially handy at writing Applescripts it took me half and hour or so to finally figure out the correct syntax for a working Applescript. Once I got the Applescript to work the rest was easy (as V.K. describes above). So if you have an old Finder Automator action that you can't get to work, check to see if it includes an Applescript in one of the steps. If it does you may have to rewrite the Applescript. If you are a klutz with Applescript and just can't figure it out, try the Applescript forum:

http://discussions.apple.com/forum.jspa?forumID=724

There are some very helpful folks who post there. I've had someone write an Applescript for me that did more than I had originally thought possible. 😉
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