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Disk Drive ejecting itself

My Time Machine disk drive has been "ejecting" itself since I installed Snow Leopard. I'm not unplugging it, or turning it off. I'm not touching it.
I'm getting the following error message:
"The disk was not ejected properly. If possible, always eject a disk before unplugging it or turning it off."

My question is why would a disk drive be "ejecting" itself. I've turned off the auto backups, and unselected the drive as the backup disk. It is still "ejecting" itself which leads me to believe the problem isn't with Time Machine but with something else - something connected with Snow Leopard because this wasn't happening five days ago before I installed SL.

iMac5,1 Intel Core 2 Duo, Mac OS X (10.6)

Posted on Sep 9, 2009 5:40 PM

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Oct 30, 2014 4:37 PM in response to h_b

I showed up on this thread about mid stream. I managed to contribute to the effort and rid my 2012 MBP of the external drive plaque that had befallen me. The symptoms you are having are not the same. The SATA issue would not let the drives run more than a few minutes.


I saw your post, and realized I had not updated CCC to 4.0. I have had nothing but good luck with it (CCC), so, without a second thought, off I went.


Disaster.


I had Yosemite running since the update, I don't think its that, but CCC and Yosemite, or CCC have raised havoc with my addressing. I have a synology server that I have CCC back up to. The IP address changed. I don't know how, or even if its possible, but that is sure how it looks. Every time I run a backup, the server disconnects. Never happened before.


Sadly, I have no answers, other than, this is a new problem and it appears to be triggered by CCC.

Nov 3, 2014 9:43 AM in response to Johnnylane

I have just purchased a Seagate 2TB Backup Plus to backup files from my 13" MBP (mostly music and TV shows). Whilst copying files, the drive disconnects/ ejects every couple of minutes and the copy process gets aborted (but automatically restarts again).


I have tried just streaming a movie (read only) from the drive and it still drops out after a couple of minutes (sometimes seconds). I guess this is like a lot of people in the 63 pages of this thread are saying. However, I am running Windows 7 on my MacbookPro (in bootcamp).


I have tried using the drive in Mac OS on the same MBP and it seems to be fine. To me this rules out cable and USB port issues, and points to some kind of software conflict between Bootcamp/Win7 and the Drive rather than a hardware issue. I have read heaps of threads and most of the issues seem to point to Mac OS. The one that I think probably hits the nail on the head is this one: "It's not the actual hard disk itself - it's the Seagate external drive HARDWARE (case, cable, circuitry) that's causing the issue - the hard disk itself is just fine for the Mac"


What I have done to try and resolve:

1. I have run the SeaTools Software and it fails the Short Generic Test on the MBP, but passes on the HP desktop.

2. My Seagate 1TB backup drive works perfectly on the MBP and has for the last 2 years using the same cable and USB port; I have also tried 4 other cables all with the same result.

3. I have used the same 2TB on my desktop computor (HP/Win7) and it is fine.

4. I have checked the Seagate site for new firmware - confirmed my drive has the latest

5. Tried to disable the "Sleep" function (with Seagate Drive settings) - no difference.


Just thought this was interesting as whilst I am using a MBP, I am booting straight into Windoze, and bypassing all Mac software. Don't really expect anyone to solve the issue if it hasn't been already, but thought I would add my 2c worth.

Nov 13, 2014 5:08 PM in response to judithnewman

It's not your drive; it's not your software--it's your logic board. I have a 13-Inch MacBook Pro, Late 2014, Retina display and a WD 8 TB Thunderbolt Duo external drive. From the beginning, I got the "disc not ejected properly" at irregular intervals. After eight months of it I got disgusted enough to visit an Apple Store and complain. My computer was sent someplace and came back after four days with a new logic board. And the problem is solved.


Apparently Apple simply installed, in who knows how many or which models of their computers, defective logic boards, which don't provide consistent power such as will maintain a connection to an external drive. Too bad. Make them fix it.

Dec 20, 2014 5:07 AM in response to judithnewman

I have RMBP 13" Late 2013 with OS X 10.9.5.

I have a Western Digital My Passport Ultra 1TB.

It has drive lock feature on, with automatic unlock enabled for my OS X account.


Sometimes it ejects itself, sometimes it does not eject itself, but all the time disk becomes unreadable after a period of inactivity, for sure. It has its latest firmware and its cable is fine, really.


This problem is discussed in this thread for years. This thread has more than 320k views, nearly 1k posters so far. There is no solution here, but it shows me something. This is another common problem of Mac computers. Like other common problems in Mac, even if it has a very wide effect on its users for very very long time, even if there is a wide frustration among Mac users, there is not even a single reply nor a solution from Apple. Apple just ignore it.


This is great, really.


What is the point of discussing problems here, I wonder... I don't remember that I find any solution here, I only see complaints... Like this post. Maybe it is just a group therapy for us, for Mac users whose problems will never be solved.


In summary, "the most powerful operating system" of the world cannot handle external hard drives.


It cannot let its users to choose their computer to not sleep on battery when lid is closed, either.


It is so powerful but cannot do such basic things.


My solution: I finally began to consider installing GNU/Linux on my Mac.

Jan 1, 2015 9:06 AM in response to dcsang

Except that a certain other major operating system developer *doesn't* have this problem and *does* apparently take the time to come up with solutions for this sort of thing.


People need to stop defending Apple - they are failing us as a user base. Using an external USB drive to perform a backup is not an advanced, one-in-a-million situation. It's just about standard practice for home computing these days. Either someone uses an external drive or cloud storage somewhere.

Jan 1, 2015 9:13 AM in response to DB1957

Can I do that with at 2010 MBP? I really hate going to the Apple store - they do a good job discouraging customers from ever coming back. I'm afraid I'd get there, wait for 20 minutes in a store full of people, then explain my situation to a 'genius' for another 20 minutes, only to find out "oh sorry that will cost you hundreds of dollars because this would be a warranty item and your warranty is expired" (even though it's probably been a problem as long as I've had the MBP).


Same sort of situation happened with my iPhone 4s. The screen messed up about 9 months into my owning it. I took it to the store to show them, waited, explained, and then found out it would be $200 to fix it because my warranty had expired THREE DAYS earlier. Then the rep said it was my phone company's warranty. Called the phone company and they said it was Apple's. Long story short I didn't buy another iPhone after that.


We could've been such great friends, Apple. But you abandoned us.

Jan 20, 2015 5:39 AM in response to judithnewman

HI All,


I've had this issue for over a year now. It doesn't look like there is anyway to resolve this. However I have a few questions that hopefully someone here can answer.


History:


Mid 2010 27" iMac. I've got different brands of external hard drives (WD and Seagate) being ejected through the USB 2 ports on the back of the computer and through a powered USB hub. I've also got my printer and sometimes my keyboard being ejected as well. And finally my Drobo external hard drive though firewire connection.


I can't tell you how frustrating this is. Every time I need to print something I have to restart my computer.


So my two questions are:


1. Is this a software issue or a hardware issue?

2. My computer is nearing the end of it's life (I'm a photographer and work it pretty hard) so if I do get the new 5K iMac. Will I have the same issue with things ejecting?


Thanks in advance and please do help me!!

Feb 3, 2015 3:25 PM in response to judithnewman

Has anyone tried cooling the drive with fans? I was eventually able to get 250 GB backed up, however, even with a large fan pointed directly at the drive I encountered "Ejection" messages. I just reset the hard drive and tried to get it to resume. Before I added the fan it would often fail right after calculating the expected time for the backup and it would not complete.


I'm using a 2TB Segate drive (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822178396) in an Orico external enclosure (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=0VN-0003-000N7). My Mac is running 10.10.2 and it is a MacBook Pro (15-inch, Late 2008) with USB 2.0.

Feb 26, 2015 2:39 AM in response to judithnewman

Hello everyone,


This reply really goes out to all of you in case it applies to your situation, not just judithnewman, but there doesn't seem to be a "reply all" function.


Anyway, my hard drive issue [I have a 4 TB Seagate external hard drive with USB 3.0 that I'm using with a Mac OSX Yosemite version 10.10.2. The drive was originally formatted for windows - it was much less expensive than the mac version - and I reformatted it for Mac] is very similar to many of the problems that you guys are experiencing.


When I first got my hard drive, it didn't have issues and worked fine. Then there were issues with hibernation/sleep, so I turned those off in my preferences and it seemed to fix the problem - until I updated my software. I was getting all the same symptoms - random ejections, intermittent connection, or sometimes the drive wouldn't read at all. I tried all manner of basic troubleshooting, like rebooting with the drive plugged in [USB], rebooting with drive unplugged [USB], changing settings in system preferences with energy saver, but nothing was conclusive to solving my problem.


In a different thread titled "External Hard Drive Randomly Ejects From Macbook Pro - "The Disk Was Not Ejected Properly," user AxEffects posted this comment on page 4 August 16th, 2013[the portion with the steps that solved my problem about midway down is bold and italicized]:


"Hi there folks,


While surfing the mac forums lately I've seen a lot of people having difficulties with external storage devices not being detected, and many, being dismounted or self-ejecting causing loss or damage of data. I've also read of problems pertaining to old data not being accessible on the new drive. This being said, I've had these same issues recently with my Mac. Take a deep breath, all is well. It really isn't your Mac. After reading so many forum posts I've decided to share some of my experiences that have answered questions and resolved these problems for me.


Here are some solutions for most of the folks I'm sure, who are having problems with self-dismount/eject:


I'm running a 2013 Macbook Pro Retina with OSX 10.8.4 Mountain Lion.


For those that just can't get their drives recognized or to show in 'Finder':


I'll start with proper formatting. Be sure your new drive has been formatted as 'Mac OS Extended (journaled)' and that the partition map scheme is 'GUID Partition Table.' Even though your drive should have come formatted for your Mac 'out of the box', sometimes they just don't get it right.


An important factor worth mentioning is to be sure you're running your external storage device with the most recent firmware. Just because that shiny new drive came fresh out of the factory sealed box, doesn't mean you have the latest firmware. Keeping your firmware up to date is a most definite necessity as each and every day brings us new features and function in our operating systems, that sometimes changes how hardware will behave and does indeed require Firmware Updates from the manufacturers.


Ensure your USB/Firewire/Thunderbolt connections are functioning properly; this is especially important if you are using an expandable multi-port hub with your system. Via 'System Report' pull up 'Hardware' and 'USB', 'Firewire', 'Thunderbolt' (whichever applies). Look at the data and be certain everything is being found, and found correctly. If you see something that is not being found, or is being found incorrectly (USB 3.0 connection being found as a USB 2.0 as an example) be certain of a couple of things:


Check that your power for all of your devices are connected (external drive power, power for your hub, etc). You may have been using your hub passively running other low consumption devices on it with line level voltage from your computer with no problems. However, your hub must have power to run a device of this type. Another possibility is that your cable may be damaged, or you're plugged into a USB hub or USB port on your computer that only supports USB 2.0.


For everyone who suffers with "improper eject":


The first thing I discovered when I had problems with other external drives dismounting is that power management in newer Macs use a VERY LOW POWER sleep mode, almost to hibernation levels. Most external drives can only detect a connection to a computer when the computer is sending a line level signal via connection cable. When newer macs enter sleep mode the power is beneath the threshold level the external devices are capable of sensing. Therefore, when the computer sleeps, the drive thinks the computer is off and puts itself to sleep causing improper dismount or self-eject, and of course generating the message that the device has been improperly ejected. Yes, this can damage files. What is required when using these devices, is to either eject the drive manually through the Finder Window, and then let your computer sleep at will, or adjust your power management setting in the "Energy Saver" tab to "NEVER" for the 'Computer Sleep' setting. Also in the same Energy Saver window, be certain to UNCHECK 'Put hard disks to sleep whenever possible," and UNCHECK 'Enable Power Nap.'


Many external drives have there own power management features as well, that can be set from its own settings window and these operate independently of OSX. If these devices are set for a sleep mode before OSX sleeps, it will cause itself to eject improperly from the OS and you will get error messages and possibly corrupt data, and, or your back up. Where these devices offer power management settings, it is advisable to disable any sleep settings. Until all of the manufacturers catch up with ultra low power connection discovery, it is highly recommended that you manually eject your drive through OSX Finder prior to any time you plan to let your computer sleep, or before you turn it off. This should be rule of thumb for any external storage device connected to a Mac. I personally leave my computer on full time during the day with external drives ready at the helm. I have had ZERO issues since discovering these things.


This said, some users will have their external drives plugged into a power strip separate from their computer; and I know people who do this; they will turn off the power strip when shutting down the computer; the computer may not be ready and when the power to the drive is shut down...voila, improper eject.


Another item that contributes to these issues is energy preference settings being stored by other programs for your old storage device, perhaps now accessing your new drive imposing obsolete, and conflicting settings. When I first experienced some of this behavior at discussion, I had replaced my 2 TB WD MyBook Studio for Mac with a 4TB Seagate Backup Plus for Mac drive. The WD has power management options and when set were also being stored by Time Machine. The answer is to delete the offending file. I deleted the preference file for Time Machine (not to worry, the Mac makes a new one ;-)), by doing the following:


1) Turn off Time Machine via Time Machine Preferences window.


2) Open the 'Finder' window.


3) Eject External Hard Drive via 'Finder' window.


4) Click on Macintosh HD.


5) Click on Library.


6) Click on Preferences.


7) Locate the file named 'com.apple.TimeMachine.plist' and DELETE it (Move to Trash).


8) Restart your computer


Now for another one: Once your drive is installed successfully and is functioning properly, if you've had a problem with Time Machine not being able to access your backup data, when you know the data is there and you can see your backup folders plain as day, an item that may warrant your attention here is a permission reset if you've moved data from the old storage device to the new one:


1) Reboot and hold Command + R


2) Terminal and type 'resetpassword' (no spaces)


3) Select main drive at top of dialogue box that appears, then select 'reset permissions/ACL at the bottom of the box.


4) Reboot computer.


5) Open 'Disk Utility' in Apps and reset main hard drive permissions.


6) Reboot computer.


This process resets the user permissions folder. One way to avoid going through all of this is to use your 'Migration Tool' found in your Apps folder INSTEAD of the old copy and past from the old to the new.


This one probably goes without saying; however, I've read many, many forum complaints that the backup software that came with their drive either won't install or doesn't function properly on their mac. USE TIME MACHINE. Most storage device Manufacturers even specify to use Time Machine instead of their own software. The major players in the field don't even make BackUp software for Mac. They'll format the drive for Mac (in most cases :-/ ) but that's it. There is a reason for this; no other backup software comes close to keeping your files as safe and secure as they will be with APPLE Time Machine.


Hope this helps some people.


Happy computing!"



Just this week my computer did another software update, and again I was having issues so I had to dig up this post again. If the steps above solve your issue, SAVE THEM TO A TEXT DOCUMENT FOR LATER REFERENCE. I can tell you from experience that you'll probably need to reference it again - and considering all the posts and complaints about external hard drives it will be difficult to find it again [it was several months ago that I first needed it, so it was difficult for me to remember the exact search criteria that led to my issue being resolved].


TL; DR: My problem narrowed down to a "com.apple.TimeMachine.plist" file. For whatever reason, deleting this file and rebooting my computer fixed the issue. In the future, any time my system goes through an update I'm deleting that file and rebooting [the system will recreate this file automatically].


I hope that this helps you guys, as a film editor I know how absolutely infuriating it can be to not have access to your hard drives or worse - losing data.


Good luck and Godspeed. :]

Mar 12, 2015 5:20 AM in response to judithnewman

I've got a 2008 MacBook which I just updated from OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard to OS X10.7 Lion over the weekend. (Yes, I know it's an old computer but I've been holding off for the mythical MacBook Air with Retina display.) I did not have any issues backing up to a WD 1 TB drive with a USB 2.0 cable (which came with the hard drive) until I swtiched to OS X 10.7, then I started getting the "disk eject" error. The HD disconnected about 10 times over the weekend while I was trying to back the MacBook up.


I spent a large amount of time yesterday reading these boards and then tried this:

1) I shut off the wireless mouse and plugged in a wired mouse. There were posts which suggested that the wireless mouse was interfering with the USB connection when using a USB 2.0 cable.

2) I connected the hard drive to the MacBook via USB, started the computer and then plugged in the hard drive to the wall outlet.

3) I disabled the MacBooks ability to shut down the hard drives to conserve power in both battery mode and when it was plugged into the wall outlet.

4) I opened Time Machine and backed up the MacBook hard drive to the 1TB drive with no issues.

5) I thanked God that my 1TB hard drive was not corrupted by the mulitple disconnections it experienced over the weekend.


Unfortunately, I changed two things: the wireless mouse connection and the MacBooks energy settings so I'm not sure which one made the difference. However, I thought that maybe my experience might help other users.


Also, if you look at the various boards, this is still an issue today even with the lastest OS X operating systems. My thinking was that it was either the wireless connection from the mouse or the way Apple handles the USB connctions with respect to the computers energy settings.


Anyway, it's something that you can try if you are having this issue.

Apr 21, 2015 3:54 PM in response to judithnewman

Hi All,
I will share my experience here.
I have Mac Pro 2010 4-core with SL 10.6.8 (I'm planning to install Yosemite soon, but that's another thing).
SInce I must work some period from home with a lot of files, I got from my company external case with 4 drives, everything new. Drives are WD, 2 TB each. I'm using a non-raid mode, so each drive will show separately. I don't have USB 3.0, external sata and obviously thunderbolt, so the best option was firewire 800 connection, that was important factor when we choose external box. I have it a few days, with random disk eject, or file copying freeze in the middle without option to stop it or do anything (comp is alive, for example Safari works).
I've read absolutely everything I was able to find here and on some other places, and I will start with what I tried:
• PRAM reset

• different cable
• different port
• ONYX application
• repairing disk permissions

• manual deleting some kexts (to rebuild)
Nothing helped.
But I didn't gave up, and it looks that I fixed it with (note: maybe not all steps are necessary, but I'm not sure, you can try and test):
• In Preferences, I disabled hard disk sleep

• Time Machine is disabled
• I disabled Spotlight indexing for all external drives by putting .metadata_never_index file at the top level directory of each volume. You can do it in Terminal with these commands:

cd /Volumes/(volumename) (instead of (volumename), put your volume)

touch .metadata_never_index

• This is what I believe is a key step: for each drive in Disk Utility I disabled journaled, so it's now just Mac extended. I believe I've read it here, so I decide to try it - I have nothing to lose.


So far, it looks ok, but I must say that I'm using this for a half of a day only. But before I had random eject every hour or two.
It doesn't hurt you to try, you'll need only a few minutes. Try with external USB drives too.


I don't have illusion that this will magically solve your problem (who knows, maybe I will face it again and start to be desperate), but if this helps at least a few people here, I will be more than happy.


Good luck!

Jun 29, 2015 7:47 PM in response to judithnewman

Solution..works for me,

I have spent a few hours with the same problem. It's a real petty thing that Apple overlooks. Since there is no setting for computer to avoid sleeping or going idle, I found this program to do the job. May be the silliest solution I have ever heard of but here's the link. http://insomniax.en.softonic.com/mac. Hope the works for you.


MacBook Pro 2011

Dual Core Intel

4 Gigs ram

Yosemite fully updated

Toshiba external 1 TB HD

Jun 29, 2015 7:50 PM in response to judithnewman

Solution..works for me,

I have spent a few hours with the same problem. It's a real petty thing that Apple overlooks. Since there is no setting for computer to avoid sleeping or going idle, I found this program to do the job. May be the silliest solution I have ever heard of but here's the link. http://insomniax.en.softonic.com/mac. Hope the works for you.


MacBook Pro 2011

Dual Core Intel

4 Gigs ram

Yosemite fully updated

Toshiba external 1 TB HD

Jul 4, 2015 6:02 PM in response to John Roc

in response to all...

I am rather frustrated at all the posts and actual lack of a clear answer.

Both my tablet (plugged in directly via a fully functional and tested on other macs data cable) and a usb stick have this issue.

Constantly being ejected, nothing to do with sleep, spot light and time machine off, energy saving options off/as recommended...

A nice, clear and easy fix would be appreciated. Or at least a more descriptive error message, as *the system* found the drive was ejected, and I believe it should tell me why...

Jul 21, 2015 4:15 AM in response to judithnewman

(I just realized, this is probably the wrong place to post it because I am posting from a Windows 8.1 Partition created through Boot Camp but anyway at least it's Mac-Related) and what I was going to say was that I am having a similar problem with my mac. It's not posting any message up on the screen but it's ejecting my disc drive. I don't know the cause because earlier it was working fine. If anyone here could help me then that would be great and thanks in advance but If I find a Youtube video or something like that I'll edit this post and say I solved it. Once again, thanks in advance for helping (or at least trying to)!

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