iTunes 9 and iPhone OS 3.1 Smart list syncing problem

Same problem here. No apparent correlation between the order on iTunes and the order on the phone 😟

If I look at the iPhone playlist in iTunes when the phone is connected, the order is correct. However, when I disconnect and look at the playlist directly on the iPhone it appears to be scrambled.

Message was edited by: Heather Hollick

Hi

I have the same problem - the order of my Podcasts which are part of a Smart Playlist are not being displayed correctly on the iPhone (OS 3.1) when using iTunes 9.

Not sure if it's the iPhone OS or iTunes at fault, but I assume the iPhone OS

Regards to all

HI

I have a solution, although not ideal:

I can confirm that unchecking the 'Live Update' option in the Smart Playlist (edit your playlist) has corrected the problem for me - although this is not an ideal workaround

Doesn't work for me. 😟

Same problem here as well. They are podcasts in my Smart Playlist. Someone replied to a post I posted about this problem this morning. Something about unchecking Live Update on the Smart Playlist edit screen. I am going to try to look into that now.

Ok, here is the EXACT thing that I have on my iTunes that is working on my iPhone. (I haven't checked on the Shuffle yet) First screen--iPhone itself--nothing checked except Automatically sync when this iPhone is connected. Now Podcasts Tab on iPhone screen (right side of iTunes--center really--at least not the left side) Checked Sync Podcasts at Top. Also Checked Automatically include ALL episodes of SELECTED podcasts. Now here is where it seems weird. I have NONE of the podcasts themselves checked. Scroll Down further and there is a check box for Includes Episodes from Playlists. I have both of my Smart Playlists checked and they are both working correctly.
One more thing, I have in my Smart Playlist a rule saying Play Count is 0. That way after I have completely listened to the entire podcast it will be deleted from that playlist. If I am halfway through the podcast--that is saved and it starts playing at that point.

"First screen--iPhone itself--nothing checked except Automatically sync when this iPhone is connected. Now Podcasts Tab on iPhone screen (right side of iTunes--center really--at least not the left side) Checked Sync Podcasts at Top. Also Checked Automatically include ALL episodes of SELECTED podcasts. Now here is where it seems weird. I have NONE of the podcasts themselves checked. Scroll Down further and there is a check box for Includes Episodes from Playlists. I have both of my Smart Playlists checked and they are both working correctly."

This did not work for me. Using the above procedure, smart playlists with live updating still do not sync properly to the iPhone 3.1

I forgot to say that I did turn OFF Live Updating in the Smart Playlist edit screen also.

OK, so it doesn't work perfectly but with that Live Updating turned off at least it SORTS correctly which is the most important feature that I need. When I listen to podcasts I like to have them in Date Added order so that I listen to the oldest first. So that is most important to me, more so than the Live Updating.

I am having the same issue. Smart Playlist are sorted radomly on my iPhone 3GS. Also songs that are not included in the smart playlist in iTunes 9 show up on the smart palylist on my phone.

Anyone have an answer yet?

i am having the same problem. except to add that my podcasts album artwork now shows the new genius mix album artwork instead and the podcasts are out of order as well. fixes?

Same problem here. Playlist for podcasts still brings up all my new podcasts, but it refuses to drop them off the list when the playcount reaches 1, despite having the same rules for the playlist as I did pre-3.1. We NEED a solution, Apple.

Unfortunately i have the same problem.

I hope this wasnt done on purpose, as its extremely upsetting now, being unable to play my songs in their appropriate order. Also, a lot of my art work is missing when using the "Albums" vertical view on my iPhones, iPod app.

Please update soon.

Same here. Apple dropped the ball on this one... You'd think this bug would easily be caught during beta testing.

It was a problem for me with OS 3.0, and it is worse with OS 3.1. My smart podcast playlist is sorted by rating in iTunes, but randomly on the iPhone. In order to achieve proper ordering in OS 3.0, I remade my smart playlist without using the "Limit to..." option. With OS 3.1, remaking the playlist made no difference. Resetting my iPhone also made no difference. Apparently, I will have to toggle "Live updating" off the several times a day I sync my iPhone.
Apple, PLEASE fix this as well as the excessive "Updating Library" delay! I submitted bug reports after both iPhone OS updates, and I suggest those of you experiencing problems to do so as well.

I am have experienced a variety of problems with iTunes 9/3.1.1 on my iPod. I'm am disappointed in Apple that these bugs, which were obvious to any iPod podcast playlist user, were not detected by Apple software quality control. Even more disappointing is that the problems have not been corrected by now. I'd like to go back to iTunes 8.

The worst problems are:
* a special and new strategy for syncing podcast smart playlists is required
(described by users in these forums)

* when you finally get the podcasts to sync and show up on the iTunes view of the iPod playlist,
the podcasts on the iPod are in some random order.

* when one creates a ordinary playlist from the podcast smart playlist, the iPod podcast is in order,
but the iPod **plays them out of order**. I can't imagine why anyone would want to listen to
podcasts in random order. This bizarre behavior apparently cannot be turned off.

Time to get a fix out, pronto. You might have someone actually check to see if it works before distributing the update.