Mono CD to Mono MP3

Ordered the Beatles Mono box set. Caused me to think about what I will do when I go to add those CDs to my iTunes library.

I know that the "mono" CDs will really have the mono version of the album copied twice into the left and right channel (the Redbook standard for CDs does not include a way to have a single mono track on a CD). I also see that setting your iTunes import preference to "Mono" will take the left and right channel and combine them to create the single channel mono MP3.

That seems silly to me to have a single channel source, make two copies of it and then combine the two together again. Seems like it could theoretically cause a problem.

So, my question is: How would one take just the left or right channel of the CD and rip it to a mono MP3. I assume I could do a lot of work and import everything into an audio editing program but is there an easier single-step way to do it? It seem like iTunes doesn't have any option to do this - like a "Rip mono MP3 from left stereo channel" or something.

Intel iMac, Mac OS X (10.5.8), iTunes 8

Posted on Sep 10, 2009 7:40 AM

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Sep 10, 2009 9:09 AM in response to Matthew Morgan

Well, that's what I mean. The mix would be a single track (on analog tape) so it would be doubled in order to appear in the left channel and the right channel on the CD. I want that single track to create an mono MP3 that is a single track.

Part of the reason here is that if I re-rip all of the Beatles albums and I make it a mono MP3 the file size will be smaller.

Sep 11, 2009 8:45 AM in response to Matt-Boy

Why not just RIP to mono as ed stated?
Only one track will be produced by iTunes and since the left and right tracks are identical, iTunes won't create a left and right track.
Identical bits in the left/right channels will not be duplicated in the RIP'd file. In this case, the entire left and right tracks are identical so only one will be in the resulting file.

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Sep 12, 2009 11:00 AM in response to Chris CA

Thanks for all the input. I decided to do some experimenting. Here is what I found:

I extracted a song off of the first disc with Toast. Opened it in Peak LE and confirmed that yes, it does have the exact same content in both speakers. Saved as dual Mono to get a single mono file.

The AIFF of the stereo track was 30 MB. The Mono one was 15 MB. No surprises there. Did all of the following in iTunes. Apple Lossless converting the stereo AIFF gave me a stereo 13 MB file. Tried importing as MP3 in stereo, in mono, with and without variable bit rate. All at 44.1 and 320 kbps. Listened to the first section of each of the results at decent volume right after the other. I did all of the rips at the highest quality settings (no experiments on lower settings - I'm not interested in decreasing the quality if I can manage it).

Ripping to a stereo MP3 gave a file about 5.8 MB. Ripping to Mono MP3 gave a gave a file about 3.4 to 3.6 MB. Using AAC gave a smaller file but I was doing all the MP3s at the 320 setting and AAC only let me use 256 as a max. For MP3 I used 320 kbps which means it uses 160 for mono. If I used VBR and set it to Highest quality, it actually ended up using a setting above 160.

In the end, I was not able to hear any difference in quality, in track volume, or in the overall tonal balance between any of the test files. Basically they all sounded exactly the same to me.

My conclusion is to not bother trying to extract a single track from the CDs. I will just put the discs in and set iTunes import preferences to MP3 at 320 kbps, 44.1, mono, with VBR on. I am convinced this will give me an excellent quality file at a pretty small file size.

Thanks again for the input.

Sep 15, 2009 6:53 AM in response to aslan

I just went and checked. Since I had clicked "VBR" it grayed out the 320 option. If VBR is not checked, you do indeed have the option under AAC of choosing Mono and 320 kbps. If you prefer AAC over MP3, that might be the way to go.

One final note for when you get your box set, when you get to Help and Rubber Soul, don't forget those have the album in mono and then the album again in the original stereo (all music in one speaker all vocals in the other). I unchecked the stereo tracks and ripped mono MP3s and then unchecked the mono tracks and checked the stereo ones, changed the import setting to "Stereo" and ripped again. Just means you have to do 2 passes on these 2 CDs. And of course, make sure you set it back to mono before going through the rest of the CDs...

Sep 16, 2009 8:04 PM in response to Matt-Boy

Chris CA wrote:
RIPping in iTunes with Mono selected results in 1/2 the file size of a RIP with Stereo selected.

Good to know, thanks.
Matt-Boy wrote: (no experiments on lower settings - I'm not interested in decreasing the quality if I can manage it).

You mean any further than the major drop from AIF to mp3 or AAC. It's like 90% reduction, as shown in the much smaller file sizes you're getting, albeit it is reduced "intelligently."
Help and Rubber Soul, don't forget those have the album in mono and then the album again in the original stereo

You mean the original mono. All the Beatles albums were originally mixed in mono by George Martin and the Beatles, with the exception of Yellow Sub (which wasn't really done as an album), Let It Be and Abbey Road, which is why they are not included in the mono box set.

Thanks for reporting all your findings. Good info.

Sep 23, 2009 7:21 AM in response to poflynn

Right, all of the mono versions are the original final versions of the albums.

By "original" mono I meant the way these two albums were originally released when they put out the stereo LPs. These two had all of the music in one speaker and all of the vocals in the other. When the CDs first came out in 1987, George Martin remixed these 2 albums for a more natural stereo mix and these 1987 mixes are now the standard stereo mixes (i.e. that is what you get in the stereo box and if you buy the remastered stereo CD separately). The "original" stereo mixes are included on the mono box set CDs as a bonus.

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