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iTunes 9: No Miniplayer w/Green Button!

In theory, if your iTune's window is open, and you click on the green button, it should shrink up into the Miniplayer--this is what it used to do, anyway. But now, if you're in miniplayer, you click on green an open up the window, you're stuck. At least I am. I hit the green button again, and it does not go back to miniplayer. I have to pick that option from under "View" to get the window to shrink.

Am I missing something? Is there some preference or something that I didn't check off--or is this a bug in iTunes 9? "Help" gives me no answers.

Aluminum Macbook 2.4Ghz, Mac OS X (10.5.5)

Posted on Sep 10, 2009 9:26 AM

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Jovial Jay

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Posted on Sep 10, 2009 9:32 AM

I noticed this as well. You have to use the View Menu or the Keyboard shortcut now. I'm looking to remap Ctrl-Cmd-Z to Show miniplayer instead.

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Sep 11, 2009 4:15 PM in response to JE13

coupla other threads on this, however, my most recent reply post may be of slight interest:

uh-oh.

this is exactly what my ranting is good for : MAJOR CORRECTION:

⌥click is NOT necessary when expanding from mini player. OOPS! thus, the current other app does NOT hide.

two other threads and macosxhints thread:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2154133&tstart=0

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2152071&tstart=0

http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20090909124337733

nevertheless, Apple, this is oh so close. one little tweak and i can go back using the same mouse button.

and i STILL think there ought to start being a BIG SCREEN before features are removed on installing updates.

Sep 12, 2009 10:50 AM in response to JE13

Downgraded to iTunes 8.2 (thanks Time Machine!) and my sanity is back. I suggest a Facebook petition page to return the old functionality to the green button toggling from full window to the Mini Player.

JE13 Author

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Sep 12, 2009 6:37 PM in response to postnocomments

I'm with ya on the facebook petition as well as feedback to Apple. From what I'm seeing, a lotta people aren't happy with this one, and there was really no reason to take it away.

Hey, Apple does make boo-boos, and if they're made aware they sometimes admit it and change it back. This certainly wouldn't take much to restore.

And yes, I could go back to the old iTunes, but giving iTunes 9 credit, it actually does deliver better sound and a few other features I like. So I'll keep it and grumble and hope my voice and others are heard by Apple. Music is what saved the company and has kept them riding high--both with iTunes and iPods. As a lot of the complaints seem to be coming from musicians, they really should listen this time.

pakeha1

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Sep 13, 2009 2:45 PM in response to mpayne2k

I am sure that many users will welcome the fact that the change to the minimise function is in keeping with Apple's Human Interface Guidelines. However, since these guidelines state that one aim is that "Users with special needs will find your product more accessible" then I have to disagree that the changes to iTunes 9 match this standard. I am a physically disabled user and employ a switch control instead of mouse & keys. Something that may appear so insignificant to able-bodied users as a change to the way in which the player is minimised has made the application more difficult for users like myself to use. Instead of clicking on one button, I now have to either click on a drop down menu, scroll down to a command OR I can hold down three keys (!!) OR I can hold down one key (in my case with a switch-controlled 'sticky key' whilst at the same time using the switch to click on the button that in previous version I had programmed to switch me to the mini-player. Making the product "more accessible" I think not. Come on Apple I love your computers and have done since I was a student, but if something aint broken - why the need to fix' it?

JE13 Author

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Sep 13, 2009 10:34 PM in response to pakeha1

I am a physically disabled user and employ a switch control instead of mouse & keys. Something that may appear so insignificant to able-bodied users as a change to the way in which the player is minimised has made the application more difficult for users like myself to use.

I hope you sent feedback saying this to Apple. I believe that your point can probably hit them harder over the head on this issue than the rest of us put together 😉

idou747

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Sep 13, 2009 11:26 PM in response to JE13

Actually, I think they need more than the red, yellow, green buttons. I think they need a button dedicated to this function, but not the green button, because people expect that to maximize it.

Spreeno

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Sep 14, 2009 1:01 PM in response to JE13

yep, this is driving me insane also! fix this please!

BigToon

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Sep 14, 2009 7:24 PM in response to idou747

...and once the window has been maximized and one wants to return it to a smaller size? What then? It only stands to reason that the button that maximizes a window will also minimize it back down; otherwise it would be maximizing in perpetuity. The green button was correct before the alteration; it maximized the mini-player into a full-sized player, and minimized the full-sized player back into a mini-player. No 4th button is needed. What's needed is a fix to this; it seems like a small glitch, but it's actually quite annoying.

JE13 Author

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Sep 14, 2009 7:31 PM in response to BigToon

Bravo, BigToon! Couldn'ta said it better.

Sep 14, 2009 9:34 PM in response to JE13

When I switched to mac the green button doing different things in different applications really bugged me.

Now I'm used to it and it drives me crazy that they took that away!

MobyMac

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Sep 14, 2009 10:12 PM in response to varjak paw

Thanks yes that works but why the **** should it have been changed in the first place???!!! And why one more keystroke than before!
Hope Apple is reading these...

Sep 15, 2009 4:41 PM in response to MobyMac

It helps to move the cheese every once in a while. Give those fingers some exercise.

Brad DT

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Sep 15, 2009 6:28 PM in response to JE13

I have created a tool that can reproduce the green zoom button to toggle the mini player. It's not the most elegant solution ever, but it works (for me at least). If you'd like to give it a try, it is at http://www.bradtrotter.com

JE13 Author

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Sep 16, 2009 8:26 AM in response to bigjash1977

It helps to move the cheese every once in a while. Give those fingers some exercise.

True. My fingers were getting fat. But having to press the option button is getting them back to their slender selves. Soon I won't be ashamed to be seen in nail polish.

Sep 17, 2009 7:53 AM in response to idou747

idou747 wrote:
Actually, I think they need more than the red, yellow, green buttons. I think they need a button dedicated to this function, but not the green button, because people expect that to maximize it.

Exactly.

BigToon wrote:
...and once the window has been maximized and one wants to return it to a smaller size? What then? It only stands to reason that the button that maximizes a window will also minimize it back down; otherwise it would be maximizing in perpetuity. The green button was correct before the alteration; it maximized the mini-player into a full-sized player, and minimized the full-sized player back into a mini-player. No 4th button is needed. What's needed is a fix to this; it seems like a small glitch, but it's actually quite annoying.

Standard functionality for the green button is to toggle between maximum size and a smaller user defined size. The previous behaviour did not ever maximize the window size, it just switched between the mini player and a user defined size - the only way to get full screen was to resize the window by hand.

Switching it back would lose the feature of maximizing the window. Adding a fourth button would preserve both options. What would the problem be with adding a new button for toggling the mini player?

iTunes 9: No Miniplayer w/Green Button!